Official Off Topic Discussion Thread #1

[skjl47]

Well...good for the shooter and as for the girl,I'm all for charging her with something but I'm not sure if murder is fair.

Hello; Well this is the law in many places. It does not matter that she did not do the killing. It does not matter that her intruder buddies where the ones killed and that the home owner (I think son of the homeowner in this case.) di the killing. She was a part of the group doing the crime and a killing happened so she will be charged with murder as well as the break in.
Had the guy living in the house not been handy with a weapon, then the three guys breaking in may have done for him.
My guess is that she will do a plea deal and get some serious time. the murder charge should be a big incentive. Not sure if Oklahoma has the death penality.

 

[krichardson]

Hello; Well this is the law in many places. It does not matter that she did not do the killing. It does not matter that her intruder buddies where the ones killed and that the home owner (I think son of the homeowner in this case.) di the killing. She was a part of the group doing the crime and a killing happened so she will be charged with murder as well as the break in.
Had the guy living in the house not been handy with a weapon, then the three guys breaking in may have done for him.
My guess is that she will do a plea deal and get some serious time. the murder charge should be a big incentive. Not sure if Oklahoma has the death penality.

It just doesn't sit well with me but who am I lol?....oh well.
Yes,the shooter is the son of the homeowner who was also inside the home at the time.

 

[predatorkeeper87]

I heard that the guy might be facing some charges now...

Naw he won't lol, not in that state.

That driver catching murder charges won't do life...she'll do serious time on a plea bargain. I personally agree with that law, you join a sinister plot, you get the sinister charges when things go south.

 

[Imsobored152]

Well...good for the shooter and as for the girl,I'm all for charging her with something but I'm not sure if murder is fair.

What about when they charge a drug dealer with murder because one of his clients overdosed on his product? Dealer didn't force them to buy, or to use, or use too much. Unfortunate outcome brought on by the users own accord.

I agree with others, she probably wont get to keep the murder charge, but will sit in jail for a long time.

 

[predatorkeeper87]

What about when they charge a drug dealer with murder because one of his clients overdosed on his product? Dealer didn't force them to buy, or to use, or use too much. Unfortunate outcome brought on by the users own accord.

I agree with others, she probably wont get to keep the murder charge, but will sit in jail for a long time.

I think unless she was chained to the front seat and forced to drive she should get every single charge to the max. She drove those jackwagons to that house, she killed them in my book. I'd be saying the same thing if one of them lived that they should be catching a murder charge too.

 

[Hendre]

At the very least she was an accessory to murder

 

[krichardson]

What about when they charge a drug dealer with murder because one of his clients overdosed on his product? Dealer didn't force them to buy, or to use, or use too much. Unfortunate outcome brought on by the users own accord.

I agree with others, she probably wont get to keep the murder charge, but will sit in jail for a long time.

I have actually never heard of dealers being charged with murder due to their clients overdosing...that is not done here but if it could be proven that a particular dealer sold the drugs to the addict who overdosed then an accessory charge does seem fitting.

I think unless she was chained to the front seat and forced to drive she should get every single charge to the max. She drove those jackwagons to that house, she killed them in my book. I'd be saying the same thing if one of them lived that they should be catching a murder charge too.

It just seems like the charges of murder are made up in this case just to hold someone liable for the three deaths when in fact no murders were even committed.

At the very least she was an accessory to murder

I'm not sure about that either.

 

[predatorkeeper87]

It just seems like the charges of murder are made up in this case just to hold someone liable for the three deaths when in fact no murders were even committed.

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I think its more of making an example and attempting to deter robberies or crime in general. I've read quite a few articles on this in a few states, one story of two men who robbed a house and one of them got shot. The other was charged with his murder because he was there.

I believe I also read a story were 2 guys broke into a house, but one of them chickened out and left. The remaining degenerate shot and killed the homeowner. They were both charged with murder even though only one did the trigger squeezing and one wasn't even in the home at the time.

 

[krichardson]

I believe I also read a story were 2 guys broke into a house, but one of them chickened out and left. The remaining degenerate shot and killed the homeowner. They were both charged with murder even though only one did the trigger squeezing and one wasn't even in the home at the time.

I guess I view such cases with a little too much of a simplistic point if view.
This is the main reason I don't like being picked as a juror for murder trials.I need absolute proof of who did what in order for me to decide on a person's fate.

 

[predatorkeeper87]

I guess I view such cases with a little too much of a simplistic point if view.
This is the main reason I don't like being picked as a juror for murder trials.I need absolute proof of who did what in order for me to decide on a person's fate.

well it is understandable that you could view this type of situation differently, I think it definitely skirts a very very grey area of the law.