For a staple diet for larger fish NLS is the best. Specifically because they add thiamine (vitamin B1) and omega one doesn't. Thiamine will help prevent hole in the head disease in your fish.
Omega One vs NLS
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The distinction between whole, and trade names such as fish meal, is simply conveying the fact that some companies use generic fish meal, shrimp meal, etc from processing plant leftovers (scales, shells, heads, and bones) while others use more expensive whole units that have the flesh intact. This also typically equates to an overall lower ash content.
Having said that, please see post # 15 & 16 of this discussion as to what the owner of Omega Sea states with regards to using processing plant waste. I'm not too sure how that can be considered "whole", anything.
joecoulson;4925207; said:
I don't want to get a "warning" from moderators....there is no place in the universe you could be further away from the truth regarding NLS and bloat.
RD.;5099484; said:
NLS then uses no such parts in their food? Come on we all know the parts that we would not eat are in there. NLS has guts, skins, scales, gills and the what not just like any other fish food. "Whole" would probably have a better meaning of "we use the whole animal". Is the term "whole" regulated when it comes to the fish food industry?
Come on? New Life has never stated what Omega has, and yes, whole means just that, they use the "whole" animal, not just a concentrated form of processing plant leftovers. Which would you prefer to feed your fish, whole krill & herring, or the left over racks of fish, shrimp, etc?
New Life uses the former, according to Dennis Crews Omega uses the latter, yet promotes this processing plant waste as "whole".
These are just the plain hard facts as stated by the owner & CEO of Omega, Dennis Crews. Don't shoot the messenger. If you are happy feeding Omega, then by all means carry on.
I feed Omega One sinking veggie rounds, soften them up first and break them into little pieces so all my fish can handle them. They are packed with nutrition, and the dojos and barbs go nuts over them. The smaller fish peck at them, as well. How much they actually get inside themselves I'm uncertain about. I try to make sure they're softened up enough so the fish can bite or suck off pieces easily.
I also have Hikari micro-pellets and micro-wafers for the tiny fish. The minnows, danios and glofish tend to be a little finicky, though my barbs eat them, and my dojos will consume most anything.
I haven't tried NLS until now. I have an order in for some of their products which I'll be trying for the first time. I sense my fish are becoming bored with the Hikari.
I also feed Ocean Nutrition Spirulina flakes, grinding them up between my fingers into powdery form so my tiny fish can eat them. They're finicky about them, too.
I've heard good things about NLS, Hikari and Omega One, and I really think all of those provide good nutrition.
Just wish some of my smaller fishes weren't so picky ...
-- bigmamafish
I also have Hikari micro-pellets and micro-wafers for the tiny fish. The minnows, danios and glofish tend to be a little finicky, though my barbs eat them, and my dojos will consume most anything.
I haven't tried NLS until now. I have an order in for some of their products which I'll be trying for the first time. I sense my fish are becoming bored with the Hikari.
I also feed Ocean Nutrition Spirulina flakes, grinding them up between my fingers into powdery form so my tiny fish can eat them. They're finicky about them, too.
I've heard good things about NLS, Hikari and Omega One, and I really think all of those provide good nutrition.
Just wish some of my smaller fishes weren't so picky ...
-- bigmamafish
RD.;5099744; said:
I read the reponse from Dennis and there is nothing in the answer that bothers me. I dont take it out of context or add anything not written - yes these 'other parts' are in the food, plain and simple.
But the real question is how much? Isnt that the real thing that would bother any of us? He says that is a trade secret.
NLS has its trade secrets does it not? It has a mix of ingredients that contain "whole" products which include 'other parts'. So what is its ratio?
Wouldn't the ash content like was said previously show how much of the 'other parts' were used?
I have no issues with the messenger. Just seemed like a little confusion in the message to me.
I like both products as I've said before and for my wallet and my fishes overall well being I think Omega One works just fine. My fish are healthy and thriving.
RD.;4924091; said:
RD.;4924591; said:
It is a little strange how you first state in one post that the values posted by Mr. Hagel are the minimum values, but then claim that they are most likely the maximum values a few posts later. Could it have to do with the fact that the Novasticks had much higher levels of vitamins A, D, and E than NLS?
For the record, I don't currently feed Omega 1 or Novasticks, but I do feed NLS (among many brands of fish food). It does seem like RD's participation in (domination of?) these discussions is like a Ford dealer weighing in on the eternal Chevy vesus Ford argument...
