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i know the venom comes from inside the fish and is not held in the sting as i met somebody that got stung but no venom was delivered so he was lucky but a guy i got a few fish from said his friend got stung and it bled like crazy and could not use his arm for a while.
but as i said i dont think that there would be anything on it that would cause your hand to tingle surley if there was something on the barb then it would escape into the water.

but does anyone have any larger barbs they would like to share?
 
If the venom is anything like most other venom in the animal kingdom, the venom proteins would degrade fairly quickly. I kept rattlesnakes and some other vipers for many years and did allot of venom research. The proteins are not very stable and in a matter of days it looses its "bite" so to speak. Moisture and heat degrade it pretty fast. That is why in the "anti-venom" industry the venom that is stored for any length of time is freeze dried.

I would think that ray venom has proteins or compounds that help the venom hold up (not dissolve, disperse or break down as readily) in water better than say, rattlesnake venom or spider venom due to the fact that rays evolved in water and so did its venom. So a shed stinger in an aquarium will probably "hold" the venom until it degrades but that would be just a guess because I have no lab experience with ray venom.

But like it has been said, the ray stinger is not a hypodermic type delivery system like a rattlesnake fang. It does not inject the venom but instead works like the arrows of the South American tribes that rub there arrows on Poison Dart Frog backs. The venom is on the stinger and if the stinger goes in your flesh then so does the venom.

I can see how handling a barb could give you a tingling sensation as the venom could "absorb" through the skin if there was still "active" venom on the barb. I have been struck at by rattlesnakes and had venom sprayed/splattered on me and if I left it on my skin to long, it would start to tingle and ache. If it were to get into a cut or scratch, it could cause a mild envenomation. When this happened I would have to change my cloths (and wash them) so it would not be sitting on my skin all day.
 
This is is a sick thread. I think barbs r soo kool. I gt my first ray I think it was in June maybe July and I still don't have 1! I was told they shed sumtimes 2 times a year. But mine hasn't I'm guessing
 
Earthstudent: thank you for that post, it makes a lot of sense.


I have some experience with rear fanged snakes such as western hognose and also false water cobras so find this interesting.

I think the first barb shed is a wonderful time and very exciting....I plan to keep all of mine and I am looking for the best way to present /display them.
 
I have a collection of discarded stingers and I can say that they have all given me a tingling sensation when held for too long, I have dry hands and on one occasion one of my fingers was slightly numb for a whole day when I picked up the shed stinger.
 
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