Pacquiao Vs. Mosley? whos going to win this fight?

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lol, but what defines "hot?"

you are going off your personal feelings

ppv buys says boxing is still hot, that's what I'm trying to say

but yea, key words are "in my mind"
 
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btw eddie, would you buy pac vs mayweather if it were to go down? and what would your prediction be? just wondering
 
buy no, go watch in a bar yes.

pacquio knockout in the late/mid rounds. the whole time i would just be wishing it had happen years ago so there'd be no built in excuse for "money" not being at this best
 
Well, just to work with you on your point - how many boxing ppvs are there per year? 2? Maybe 3? And how many fights do you get? So yes, you're right, a single boxing event will outdo a single mma most of the time (not even close to every time). But if last weekend is any indication of what MMA is capable of, I think it speaks volumes. Last weekend's event had 55,000 tickets sell out to the arena. That's a BUNCH. This weekend's boxing match sold out 16,000.

Here's a quick search about boxing event ticket sales:
The event holds 16000 seats and sold out quickly, but here is the expectation for ppvs:
Apart from the guaranteed purses of $20 million for Pacquiao and $5 million for Mosley, Arum foresees more financial rewards for both fighters as pay-per-view buys are also expected to top a million
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The idea that King and Aram will take ~50% of the money generated (including purses) kinda disgusts me. King is a dirtbag, and Aram isn't any better. They do their best to latch on like leeches and suck the blood out of fighters, leaving them broke, mentally crippled, and move on to the next prospect.
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/inquir...-gloves-for-Pacquiao-for-unity-on-fight-night

A million ppvs is pretty good, but how many times this year will they do that? I'm betting not many.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pay-per-view
http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/mma.cfm?gid=183433&go=news.detail
Check these charts, and I think you'll find that if you add the numbers over the course of a year, the mma ppv buys pull ahead because there are a lot more fights - usually 1 per month/month and a half. Also, for a sport that is less than 20 years old, and less than 15 under current rules, there is a bright future. I don't think you can say the same about boxing (at least not with a straight face).

I think I am defending my point just fine....

Boxing hasn't been relevant in years :)
 
Clay;5105146; said:
The idea that King and Aram will take ~50% of the money generated (including purses) kinda disgusts me. King is a dirtbag, and Aram isn't any better. They do their best to latch on like leeches and suck the blood out of fighters, leaving them broke, mentally crippled, and move on to the next prospect.http://
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Agreed...Don King has ruined so many fighters over the years he should be thrown back in prison.He once stepped over his contracted fighter who was still lying on the mat after a knock out loss to get to the winner and woo him into signing a contract.A fighter by the name of Tim Witherspoon practically went broke trying to fight King in court over several years to get money King has stolen from him.He has done time in prison for killing a man so ripping off fighters and ruining their careers must be small potatoes.....Pac is favored at 6 to 1.
 
Clay;5105146; said:
Well, just to work with you on your point - how many boxing ppvs are there per year? 2? Maybe 3? And how many fights do you get? So yes, you're right, a single boxing event will outdo a single mma most of the time (not even close to every time). But if last weekend is any indication of what MMA is capable of, I think it speaks volumes. Last weekend's event had 55,000 tickets sell out to the arena. That's a BUNCH. This weekend's boxing match sold out 16,000.

Here's a quick search about boxing event ticket sales:
The event holds 16000 seats and sold out quickly, but here is the expectation for ppvs:

The idea that King and Aram will take ~50% of the money generated (including purses) kinda disgusts me. King is a dirtbag, and Aram isn't any better. They do their best to latch on like leeches and suck the blood out of fighters, leaving them broke, mentally crippled, and move on to the next prospect.
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/inquir...-gloves-for-Pacquiao-for-unity-on-fight-night

A million ppvs is pretty good, but how many times this year will they do that? I'm betting not many.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pay-per-view
http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/mma.cfm?gid=183433&go=news.detail
Check these charts, and I think you'll find that if you add the numbers over the course of a year, the mma ppv buys pull ahead because there are a lot more fights - usually 1 per month/month and a half. Also, for a sport that is less than 20 years old, and less than 15 under current rules, there is a bright future. I don't think you can say the same about boxing (at least not with a straight face).

I think I am defending my point just fine....

Boxing hasn't been relevant in years :)
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i know gsp vs shields sold out the place in canada. it's their biggest yet, like i said, mma is on a roll and there is no sign of slowing. one reason they did so well is because gsp is huge in canada, let's face it, there isn't exactly a long list of superstar athletes from canada. i doubt they would would've sold that many seats if the fight was held in the US

if mma and boxing had the same amount of events, i'd still say boxing would sell more per show. of course because they have one to two shows a month they sell more overall, that would be kind of dumb if they didn't

i don't think you defended your point much, boxing is still relevent. it may not be to you or to eddie or any other casual mma fan that kind of sort of follow boxing but it's still relevant. you can't really argue that it's not relevant with the numbers they do. and sold out venues only tells a portion of how huge a show is, it's in the ppv buys that truly show how much they made

the two can be compared, yes, but boxing is still ahead right now. and outside of the UFC, there really isn't any other org that puts up those kinds of numbers, at least not for long before they go under as seen in the past

boxing = still relevent,

the future is bright for mma but you can't say the same for boxing??? it's future isn't dim at all. with mayweather and pac's careers winding down, there are plenty of up and comers to take their place, there always will be just like there was before them, and before them and so on and so forth

i really don't see how one can say it isn't relevent with the numbers they do regardless of how many ppv's there are in a year
 
I'm not sure about it still being relevant or not but it certainly is not as big as it was in past years.New and exciting stars could quickly change that though.
 
Boxing is not going anywhere. Since the beginning of boxing, the men who are drawn toward the sport have been poor and trying to seek fame and fortune. As long as poverty exist, the impoverished will continue to be drawn to the sport. The wealthy rarely get in the ring. With the decline of the Russian economy, we have seen several Soviet fighters come on the horizon. At one point, all 4 heavyweight champions were from European countries with struggling economies. Also, we have seen many new boxers from the African continent. Poverty creates boxers. One more point, compare the purses of boxers to MMA fighters. Top-ranked boxers make much more than top-ranked MMA fighters.
 
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