People have no morals

[Hendre]

Hello;; Nobody wants to get shot with anything even a 22. The 22 is not so likely to stop a person or large animal right away, but if it is what you have use it.

Hello; been there, done that.

Hello; Yes this. It's a mind set. Does not take any effort to be a victim. Few of us will be aware 100% of the time, at least I am not. I take naps or get too focused on a project around the house. Still need to be aware and make an effort. I have it easy over a parent as I only need to watch out for my self much of the time.

I was stating what i used to do those long distance shots, a well placed shot could kill somebody but it is not ideal as you said.

 

[Wailua Boy]

I used a .22 rifle Wailua Boy , i am still not strong enough to wield large shotguns effectively for long. 32 grams shells on a 16 guage are not fun for shoulders, my aunt bruised her shoulder for a week after it was not shouldered 100%

Look into the .410 its very light weight and a user friendly @#$%arm

 

[skjl47]

Hello; With regard to the "awareness" or "mindset" theme, try this. Those of you in a place with legal concealed carry, see if you can identify folks who might be carrying when you are out and about.

 

[Hendre]

Look into the .410 its very light weight and a user friendly @#$%arm

Does look like it. Would you use slugs for self defense, especially with the low shot capacity of a .410

 

[Wailua Boy]

Gun options aren’t limited to long guns, either. The Taurus Judge and Raging Judge revolvers are capable of handling 2-1/2 and 3-inch .410 shotshells as well as their originally intended .45 Long Colt ammunition. Smith and Wesson makes the six-shot Governor, chambered in.410/.45 ACP(with moon clips)/.45 Long Colt.

The Mossberg 410HS Home Security shotgun holds six rounds, weighs 5 ½ pounds, and has an 18.5-inch barrel with a vertical grip on the slide.

The Results

Results on the range proved quite interesting. I used the following ammunition from Federal Premium, all Personal Defense loads:

• Load 1: Format: 2-1/2" - Shot size: No. 4 - Velocity: 950 fps - Pellet count: 60 (approx)
  
  
• Load 2: Format: 3" - Shot size: No. 4 Buck/.24 in. - Velocity: 950 fps - Pellet count: 9
  
  
• Load 3: Format: 3" - Shot Size 000 Buck/.36 - Velocity 775 fps - Pellet count: 5
  

Distances, to replicate what might be expected in a home-defense situation, were 10, 15, and 20 feet.

For testing purposes, I used the Mossberg Model 500 HS410 mentioned above. My bad guys? A partial sheet of 1/2-inch OSB (oriented strand board) and a dry fir 1-1/2 by 4. If a projectile can pass through that, it’s going to have a substantial effect on a bad guy wearing only a Death Metal T-shirt and jeans.

The 000 Buck pellets penetrated the layers of 1/2-inch OSB (oriented strand board) and a dry fir 1-1/2 by 4.

 

[krichardson]

Guys,you are really pushing it with the gun talk.....just saying.

 

[Hendre]

Guys,you are really pushing it with the gun talk.....just saying.

Should we stop with it?

Gun options aren’t limited to long guns, either. The Taurus Judge and Raging Judge revolvers are capable of handling 2-1/2 and 3-inch .410 shotshells as well as their originally intended .45 Long Colt ammunition. Smith and Wesson makes the six-shot Governor, chambered in.410/.45 ACP(with moon clips)/.45 Long Colt.

The Mossberg 410HS Home Security shotgun holds six rounds, weighs 5 ½ pounds, and has an 18.5-inch barrel with a vertical grip on the slide.

The Results

Results on the range proved quite interesting. I used the following ammunition from Federal Premium, all Personal Defense loads:

• Load 1: Format: 2-1/2" - Shot size: No. 4 - Velocity: 950 fps - Pellet count: 60 (approx)
  
  
• Load 2: Format: 3" - Shot size: No. 4 Buck/.24 in. - Velocity: 950 fps - Pellet count: 9
  
  
• Load 3: Format: 3" - Shot Size 000 Buck/.36 - Velocity 775 fps - Pellet count: 5

Distances, to replicate what might be expected in a home-defense situation, were 10, 15, and 20 feet.

For testing purposes, I used the Mossberg Model 500 HS410 mentioned above. My bad guys? A partial sheet of 1/2-inch OSB (oriented strand board) and a dry fir 1-1/2 by 4. If a projectile can pass through that, it’s going to have a substantial effect on a bad guy wearing only a Death Metal T-shirt and jeans.

The 000 Buck pellets penetrated the layers of 1/2-inch OSB (oriented strand board) and a dry fir 1-1/2 by 4.

Interesting
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[Wailua Boy]

Krich is probably right. Feel free to PM

 

[krichardson]

I could be wrong I mean nothing has been said by any mods thus far but I think posting photos of guns is really pushing it.

 

[Wailua Boy]

The lounge seems to be a fairly tolerant section of the forums but I agree with you. Its a popular topic, its a shame its not allowed