Peta says: Fish Keeping = BAD!

[cnoel08]

i think my tank is much better than the wild in some instances...

p.s.

hilarious...i like how "civil and on track" this stayed.

thanks for the PM DucatiDragster...maybe you can post it in the thread so it gets locked and you get banned.

you can get banned for pms too...

 

[coura]

i think my tank is much better than the wild in some instances...

p.s.


you can get banned for pms too...

they like to think in the wild its all peace full and nice. EHH WRONG

 

[krzr3000]

But...thats LIFE. Given its not a situation where pollution or development caused such harm, you can't refute the natural world. It just doesn't make sense...

Captivity can be nice, and is great for keeping a species from extinction. But saying animals are holistically better off in captivity is just nuts and is not a realistic view on the world.

I dont think i need to post some pics of atrocious conditions of captivity?

 

[nitrofish1]

But...thats LIFE. Given its not a situation where pollution or development caused such harm, you can't refute the natural world. It just doesn't make sense...

Captivity can be nice, and is great for keeping a species from extinction. But saying animals are holistically better off in captivity is just nuts and is not a realistic view on the world.

I dont think i need to post some pics of atrocious conditions of captivity?

in some instances, species do need captivity (such as endangered). but i guess from an aggression standpoint, if given the correct community and space, a fish can become quite comfortable, and not have to worry about getting eaten all the time like its wild counterparts.

 

[cnoel08]

But...thats LIFE. Given its not a situation where pollution or development caused such harm, you can't refute the natural world. It just doesn't make sense...

Captivity can be nice, and is great for keeping a species from extinction. But saying animals are holistically better off in captivity is just nuts and is not a realistic view on the world.

I dont think i need to post some pics of atrocious conditions of captivity?

no im not saying that captivity is better than the wild in EVERY case but there are a few benefits of being having a responsible caretaker.
and i like having pets (fish, dogs, gliders) and none of mine (that i know of) are wild caught so they would be in captivity somewhere anyway.

 

[coura]

But...thats LIFE. Given its not a situation where pollution or development caused such harm, you can't refute the natural world. It just doesn't make sense...

Captivity can be nice, and is great for keeping a species from extinction. But saying animals are holistically better off in captivity is just nuts and is not a realistic view on the world.

I dont think i need to post some pics of atrocious conditions of captivity?

I think thouse fish if they had the brain power to vote may desagree with you to be free and rot in that pool or to live well more than their average normal life in a big and pristine tank

 

[krzr3000]

I think thouse fish if they had the brain power to vote may desagree with you to be free and rot in that pool or to live well more than their average normal life in a big and pristine tank

If animals had the brainpower to vote they wouldn't be under humans on the food chain would they?

And "big and pristine" and "tank" don't belong in the same sentence

 

[lateraldisposition]

What contests give fish away?????? Point me in their direction, I'll take an arowana, a ray and um lets see, how about a picasso trigger please.

Fairs my man U've never played throw the ping pong ball in the fish bowl? I could see PETA stopping this. PETA is a bunch of people that like animals but take it way to damn overboard trying to look so humane and so innocent they go way to far to in my opinion get attention and u can't tell me there all vegetarians I'm sure that most of them have ate plenty of meat why didn't they think about happens to the animals??? Or the uprootings of the veggies the eat u know why it benefitted there stomach think about my words. Oh yea sorry PETA didn't mean to expose ya's LOL

 

[Eupterus]

Some is true, but fish enjoy companionship always? Remember to get your snakeheads, electric eels and lungfish plenty of company.

.... This is indeed an oversight on their part. I will make a note of this when I get back on the PETA forums.
The only issue that would really concern me from PETA is filter noise disrupting fish.
I think for most animals being in captivity or being in the wild is equal.
Both come with advantages and dis-advantages.
I do think some people are misguided when they "paint" life in the wild as all happy compared to captivity. That said there are some fish species that are happier in the wild then in captivity ( because most aquarists cannot meet their needs) and most here realize that and discourage the sale of these species.

Also, to me putting fish in a tank isn't different then putting cows in a pasture with a fence or a dog in a fenced yard.

 

[Eupterus]

I think it's funny how they quote their on staff biologist as saying something like he or she is speaking for the entire scientific community.

Personally, as a biologist, I support the fish trade within means. To go 180 degrees the other direction of PETA - captive animals are embassadors for thier species. Do you think anyone would give a rip about a killer whale after watching it eat a sea lion? NO. But suddenly Shamu is friendly and fun.....BOOM people love killer whales. The general public would have passed a law to hunt down and kill all great whites.....MBA gets one for people to come look at up close, and suddenly the view changes.

If they had accurate info to back themselves with, they might fare better. But making outrageous claims with incorrect info, they might as well be Wal Mart trying to sell fish.

I would be curious how as someone who deals with public aquariums would feel about captive cetations.
Sure I loved seeing a white beluga whale in an aquarium. Thing is my personal enjoyment of seeing them in captivity does not override my concern of their quality of life.
My personal research has me to think they are among the animals that need to be left in the wild.
Reading that captive cetations have shorter lifespans is a clue that they belong in the wild. Usually captive animals have longer lifespans, not shorter lifespans. Furthermore people who catch dolphins for captivity are in league with those who slaughter them for meat. I don't think I could watch a dolphin show in good conscience after what I've read on this issue.