picked up 2 1" EBJDs, questions

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blee358;3134029; said:
nice fish. wanna get a few ebjd myself but seems like they're too much of a risk
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Thanks :D I hope I can keep them healthy.

This video is much better than the first ones, they are swimming together and in the open.
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edit: 1 of them has a nipped fin, its how I tell them apart ;)
 
nc_nutcase;3133631; said:
It&#8217;s inaccurate to say &#8220;Blue Dempseys die from inbreeding&#8221;&#8230; But it is completely true to say &#8220;Blue Dempseys are genetically weaker due to excessive inbreeding&#8221;&#8230;

If you look up some of the common results of excessive inbreeding you will see a list of problems common to Blue Dempseys&#8230; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inbreeding#Results_of_inbreeding

The main result of inbreeding, or trait common to Blue Dempseys, we are discussing here is their lowered immune system&#8230; primarily their resistance to parasitic infection&#8230;

Using a UV light is by no means &#8220;necessary&#8221;, but is your best insurance at keeping parasites out of your system. As to where they come from&#8230; they are everywhere. As described, they thrive in areas most of us would consider &#8220;dirty&#8221; and very much so in a dirty fish tank. The cleaner the fish tank is the fewer parasites there will be in the tank to attack the Blue Dempsey thus the higher the chance of it&#8217;s immune system being able to combat the attack.

Also, as mentioned, not introducing feeder fish, or any new fish for that matter, will decrease the likelihood of transferring parasites in from another tank/system.

DirtyBlackSocks, I&#8217;m not suggesting you are &#8220;wrong&#8221; by what you said, only that in my opinion you oversimplified a true fact to a point it could easily be misunderstood&#8230;
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It is still bugging me that you refer to Electric Blue Jack Dempsey as a Blue Dempsey....Yes they are blue but Blue Dempsey to me says Blue Gene Jack Dempsey...

Back on topic using a UV sterilizer and 3 W/C a week when your new EBJDs are still young will help a bunch. They will enjoy the water movement and the extra oxygen in the water.
 
Congrats! Male/female?

Good price. Lowest I have seen LFS is $50 a pop.

I want to get one some day to put in my 75 gal community tank....but I need more experience, I don't mind a 5-12 dollar fish dying....but a 50 dollar I do mind! hehe
 
Thanks guys. I don't know what sex they are. I thought they would be too small to tell?

I'm not familiar with jack dempsey behavior...I've seen them twice get close to each other, head to tail, and kind of circle each other and shake a lil bit. I didn't see any contact though and no lip locking or nipping, so i'm not sure if this is aggression or what?

I tried to get a video clip of it but they spooked :irked:

edit: Looking at the video again, the beginning of it might be mis-interpreted as what I just described, but it was different than that.
 
mostlycichlids;3134258; said:
It is still bugging me that you refer to Electric Blue Jack Dempsey as a Blue Dempsey....Yes they are blue but Blue Dempsey to me says Blue Gene Jack Dempsey...
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I hear ya and I promise I don't do it to bother you :D

To me the term 'Blue Gene Dempsey' is silly... Both EBJD and Blue Genes have the same "Blue Gene"... but one is recessive and one is expressive... "het for blue" is what it would be called in the reptile world, which makes a bunch of sense (het = heterozygous). Recessive Blue JD makes sense too...

Also 'Electric' Blue isn't the best term... in my opinion... They are blue, some electric blue, some powder blue, some deep blue, some shiny blue... so what makes sense to me us use the consistent term and let go of the inconsistent adjectives... call them Blue Dempseys :)

I also don't like "EBJD" because someone new to the conversation / morph may step in and have absolutely no clue what "EBJD" means... but anyone new to the morph/conversation can read "Blue Dempsey" and understand that we are talking about a Dempsey that is Blue... Unless they make some unsuggested assumption that we are talking about some recessive quality the fish may have ;)

But by the time I showed up in the scene both terms (EBJD & Blue Gene) were already established so I didn't bother to challenge them. Likewise I'm not trying to change the name "Electric Blue Jack Dempsey"... I just shorten it differently than most, to accommodate the newer people.



Sorry for the rant in your thread BPags&#8230; those guys both have very nice color&#8230; very nice fin shape&#8230; very nice head shape&#8230; appear to have properly proportioned eyes&#8230; all in all some darn good looking fish&#8230; I&#8217;d be very happy with the investment. Those are some of the better looking baby Blues I&#8217;ve seen&#8230; and I don&#8217;t say that often&#8230;
 
Oh wow, thanks for the compliments. I didn't know they were such a rarity. I've seen so many awesome pics of small EBJDs on this site that I just assumed it was common these days.

I'm definately happy w/ the purchase.

About 20 minutes ago I turned out the lights and turned the lunar lights on, and i noticed they have been swimming together they whole time since.
 
i wish australia got some nice looking ebjd lol
we have more of the powder blue with barely no black like i have seen in some ebjd
but you have some nice ebjd :)
 
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