Piraya

[frontosablkrhom]

Yes they are expensive but considering they are rare and hard to find in the fishpet market, I would pay that ammount, but that's me i love piranhas.

A 180g would deffo fit you 4 piraya for life, but If I were you I'll get myself something smaller for their time being little, maybe 35gal would do for some months.

The Idea is you can take care of them easly in this size than in a 18ogal. since they are 2"-3" they are gonig to get lost in that inmensity plus a 35 gal. would enable you to a better care control and a better feeding control for the littels.

I would keep them in the mentioned tank and then, when pirayas are bigger, lets say 6" -8" I would change them to the 180gal.


I feed my reds with Minnows, caryfish, squid fillet, raw shrimps and beeffheart mainly. Avoid meat, chicken, liver, salmon. It is not practical to feed them with that.


You can do the same with piraya. juts be careful with life feeders, be very aware not to feed them ill life feeders.


This is an example of how the idea of a 35 gal works for the time your piraya are little.

Imagine you feed them minnows and one of them had the ich and you piraya get infected. The 35 gal enables you a better medication and later a partial change of water in an easier way.

Imagine what it would be to treat a desease in a 180gal?.


You can use as a decor some mangler roots, well rounded stones like river stones avoiding sharp or abrasive stones. You can use a mix of natural/plastic strong plants trying not to overcrowd the tank with decor or plants. Piraya grow pretty big and need plenty of space but also need some spaces to hide.



Cheers.

4 piraya even at that size in a 35 would be risking cannabilism. your 180 is really good. youll see awesome growth and 90 is a great deal.

 

[Armand]

P's like whitefish. Don't know why salmon would be contraindicated but everybody says stick to whitefish. I don't see why a little salmon would be a problem though.

As a matter of fact I discourage the salmon feeding due to its high oil content, water gets cloudy.

I dont recommend chiken, liver, pork and beef. Stay away from them.

If you want to provide your piranha with meat protein you can feed them beefherat, it has a good amount of proteon without the fat.

You can feed them codfish aswell of even some pinkies every once in a while.

This week my reds are eating squid fillet and beefheart and my turtles too.


Cheers.

 

[Armand]

4 piraya even at that size in a 35 would be risking cannabilism. your 180 is really good. youll see awesome growth and 90 is a great deal.

It Could be a risk, but I you can avoid it by feeding them properly.

I had 6 reds in a 35gal up to the size of 4" without any canibalism casualty, just provided them a lot of food.


Cheers.

 

[dudey]

too expensive...

its a rare fish.. but not worth 90... i know a place in Socal selling for about 30bucks

ummm pretty sure you are thinking of the wrong fish. illegal in california, and they run a lot more than 30$

90 bucks is around the right price for a piraya. not going to find them that much cheaper especially without shipping cost.

try and not only feed them shrimp and white fish but also get them on pellets when they are young. great for their color and very healthy for them.

 

[Diogenes]

It Could be a risk, but I you can avoid it by feeding them properly.

I had 6 reds in a 35gal up to the size of 4" without any canibalism casualty, just provided them a lot of food.


Cheers.

piraya are a whole different ballgame from nattereri. They are much more cannibalistic.

 

[Baho]

wow thanx guys for all the advice!
what kind of pellets do u guys recommend?! and i guess when they get bigger ill stick to beefheart. also wat do i have to do wit the lighting?if i put some floating plants on the surface is it enough?

 

[Armand]

wow thanx guys for all the advice!
what kind of pellets do u guys recommend?! and i guess when they get bigger ill stick to beefheart. also wat do i have to do wit the lighting?if i put some floating plants on the surface is it enough?

Listen to this bro.

Regarding the cannibalistic behavior of piraya I DO NOT recommend you to feed them pellets.

look I've been into piranhas for a long while and I have not been able to make them feed on pellets, OF course It would be great they could eat them I am not saying it is not good.

But for own expirience when I feed pellets my piranhas dont even look at them, now try to imagine you try to feed pellets and you piranha dont pay attention to them hence they are going to be very hungry and what do you think that is gonna happen when a bunch of cannibalistic piraya are starving?.


The thing is not as easy as to say "feed them pellets" they are not gold fish. Piranhas have a predatory instict and they like the smell of blood, you can train them to feed pellets buy little by little, combining different kinds of food with pellets in a rational way.



Cheers.

 

[Baho]

yeah from wat ive heard i think im just gonna stick wit beefheart.cant go wrong wit them!any advice for decoration and lighting?

 

[zerojquan85]

ummm pretty sure you are thinking of the wrong fish. illegal in california, and they run a lot more than 30$

90 bucks is around the right price for a piraya. not going to find them that much cheaper especially without shipping cost.

try and not only feed them shrimp and white fish but also get them on pellets when they are young. great for their color and very healthy for them.

Ya it is illegal.. but the store owner has had the fish for almost a year. wants to sell them at a cheap price.. problem is... not a lot of people know how to take care of them..... i thought about gettig one.. but i just dunno if their good with arowana or pbass..

 

[Armand]

yeah from wat ive heard i think im just gonna stick wit beefheart.cant go wrong wit them!any advice for decoration and lighting?

Beefheart is a good option to feed youg piranhas, they will grow like hell just rememmber to combine with other foods like squid fillet.

And rememmber, as they get bigger not only feed them beefherat cause they will become fatter.

Cheers.