portabuddy;1441149; said:yah, there are 3 little guys on the bottom left of my FREE kit i got from some guy, they are pretty small, and since the ones in my cichlid tank are bolth 300gph thease are mini to me... more then enough for what i need...
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ahh,i thought it was going in the living room.this is in my basement, water set out is only 70-72 depending on where in the room it is. its not insulated yet...
hey,i have my heater running right now.this is hard for people in florida to understand but when its really really cold outside then it gets a bit colder inside...
ahh,trust me,i know all about that.tropical beings need tropical conditions...

might.but now that you mention it the light might radiate enough heat down to wat the water... hmm?, i might hold off on the heater?...
playpen=this tank your building?lolBy the way today was a test day, on what would work best for the base, no pics though... the top of the playpen is being rounded off and polished and thats not easy ... by hand, 120g, 240g, 400g, maroon scuff pag, steel wool, 3000g then blue polishing compound on a cotton wheel..