progress of the aro noob

[dayak]

first of all i never ask for advice about raising my aro in this thread, i know i did ask about FX5 thats about it. then again im skipping the FX5, due to cannister style and im not risking my house from unattended leak.

i did take some of the advice from some members in here, most of them i ignored yes so what the problem is not mine as i never ask ur advice.
unfortunetely some of ur "advice" r generic which i already know..it might sounds arrogant to u flamers. but im doing it differently then last time i and we had our tank.

this thread is just a progress of my aro, no matter how i want it, its mine and my way..what if i did not post my obstacle here?
nothings matter right?

so far all the fish look healthy and do their fish thing and nothing out of ordinary, i think it would be best if u have nothing good/or constructive to say or cant take rejection well just back off my thread, find another thread..simple as that.
so far so good with my situation and im sure the water quality will be better within parameter within a week, till then do urself a favor and check ur water quality, its not might as healthy as think it is

 

[tokyogasmask]

first of all i never ask for advice about raising my aro in this thread, i know i did ask about FX5 thats about it. then again im skipping the FX5, due to cannister style and im not risking my house from unattended leak.

i did take some of the advice from some members in here, most of them i ignored yes so what the problem is not mine as i never ask ur advice.
unfortunetely some of ur "advice" r generic which i already know..it might sounds arrogant to u flamers. but im doing it differently then last time i and we had our tank.

this thread is just a progress of my aro, no matter how i want it, its mine and my way..what if i did not post my obstacle here?
nothings matter right?

so far all the fish look healthy and do their fish thing and nothing out of ordinary, i think it would be best if u have nothing good/or constructive to say or cant take rejection well just back off my thread, find another thread..simple as that.
so far so good with my situation and im sure the water quality will be better within parameter within a week, till then do urself a favor and check ur water quality, its not might as healthy as think it is

Where is this "progress" you speak of?

 

[dayak]

so far it is the progress and facing water quality right now, but surely im working to put it in balance.
if u want me to list it here it is, incase u r too lazy to comb thru those flamers post if u not one

the good parts

1. when smaller 5-6 inch was in 20G tank along with 2 sen bichers and he was edgy maybe nervous. moved to bigger house

2. refused anything but lives, now eating frozen, dried, sinking massivore pellets( would catch it before it sink). i got to make sure i feed aro first with with dried krill so aro would atleast a bit full before giving the buttom fish their food. if i hold the dried krill aro would eat take it off my fingers, he is accurate biter LOL, never bite my fingers as far as now.

3. would cruise and patrol the buttom part of tank to check on the other fishes and sometimes hang out there with them LOL, or maybe he was checking for lives i dunno.

4. i called him edgy but he exhibits calm and content behivour most of the time not like before, he seems to be aware of the whole situation now.

5. got along with all other fishes including the newly a week old in the tank BGK, well sometimes the aro would peek inside the cave where BGK spend most of the day and stays there for good couple second watching BGK

the bad parts

1. jumped out of the water to catch a fly outside the glass top LOL, he needs to be smarter than that LOL

2. he jumped out of the tank infront of me when feeding him breakfast..i guess its an SA afterall, and its their nature to jump on feeding, it was my mistake for leaving the glass top open while he is still eating

3. water quality is not what i wanted right now, but working vigoriously to keep it within good parameter, the brightside they r dong fine still and if they survived, they will survive incase of power outtage and disaster might hold in the future and i truly have a monsters fish.

 

[Juxtaroberto]

first of all i never ask for advice about raising my aro in this thread, i know i did ask about FX5 thats about it. then again im skipping the FX5, due to cannister style and im not risking my house from unattended leak.

i did take some of the advice from some members in here, most of them i ignored yes so what the problem is not mine as i never ask ur advice.
unfortunetely some of ur "advice" r generic which i already know..it might sounds arrogant to u flamers. but im doing it differently then last time i and we had our tank.

this thread is just a progress of my aro, no matter how i want it, its mine and my way..what if i did not post my obstacle here?
nothings matter right?

so far all the fish look healthy and do their fish thing and nothing out of ordinary, i think it would be best if u have nothing good/or constructive to say or cant take rejection well just back off my thread, find another thread..simple as that.
so far so good with my situation and im sure the water quality will be better within parameter within a week, till then do urself a favor and check ur water quality, its not might as healthy as think it is

Considering this is a site intended to help its users take the best care possible of their fish, you're going to get advice you didn't ask for if someone notices you are doing something wrong. I honestly didn't have a problem with you using a 20 gallon long, since a) you'd said you were upgrading soon, and b) you said you'd been fishkeeping for awhile, meaning you were aware of what fish need in order to be healthy. Thankfully, you upgraded, however, you're not fully cycled and you waited three weeks between water changes.

The reason I am so adamant about you buying Stability is because this cycle you're going through can last anywhere between 3-6 weeks. You won't be able to add more Prime the second ammonia starts registering again, and there will be periods of time when the fish are exposed to ammonia, until you come and dose the tank with Prime again. If you cut the cycle down to a week, it reduces the amount of time possible for your fish to be permanently damaged by the ammonia sixfold.

Another possibility is that your filter is simply not able to achieve a high turn over in your tank, so that ammonia will always show up because the bacteria can't get it fast enough. I can't remember what kind of filter you have, though.

And the stuff in red is just childish. An arowana is a living being. While its emotions might not be comparable to ours, its ability to feel physical pain is. Have you ever been in a burning building? Felt your lungs burn as you try to breathe, but are unable to as the smoke suffocates you? It's a pretty apt analogy to what your arowana is experiencing. That fish can't escape to cleaner waters, it has to endure your little "experiment," despite the fact that we've told you that no amount of ammonia or nitrites is acceptable. They must always be zero.

And don't make insinuations about other people's water quality. Except for knifegill's retarded guppy, no one here waits three weeks between water changes.

 

[dayak]

i understand roberto and know exactly the point u trying to make and about ur recommendation on seachem stability. and thank u for ur concern and i do mean it.
and i know i did things wrong according to ur book.
i did use product called API stess zyme+ and API stress coat+ from the get go of setting up the tank.
it is just not seachem stability, hope u get my point on that for not using seachem stability. and if i do use it like u recommended im exposing to greater problem in my case.

about the red text u quoted im getting fed up with those flamers with so yeah i fought flame with fire.

your analogy does make sense, and because its make sense and we human who are exposed carbon dioxide and breath polluted air and we survive even longer, why is that u think?
i think because our body adjustingand building up stonger immune to it and thanks to medical science too, so does it apply to fish? i bet u it is

and why cant i give reminder to other members to check their water quality as well?
i bet some of them have the same problem like i do or even worst, deal with sick fish but they like to keep it in close door

and plz roberto don't represent urself as we, because its u not we most of the parts.
and yes u r very knowledgeable person about fish and aquarium and WE the forum members lucky to have u on board.

 

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[Juxtaroberto]

I don't understand how Stability would make things worse. The reason I keep suggesting it is because you're registering ammonia and nitrites, meaning Stress Zyme isn't working properly. Either that, or like I also said, your filter isn't suitable for your tank. It's one or the other... is your filter suitable for your tank?

And for the last time, no one has flamed you.

And, this might be slightly off topic... but there is nothing to suggest people exposed to high levels of carbon monoxide or dioxide, or ozone, or anything that hinders lung functions, or the hemoglobin's ability to transport oxygen, lengthens lifespan. The same goes for ammonia. Actually, I read an abstract that said it shortened the fish's life.

I don't care what you do to get the ammonia and nitrite under control, just as long as you do get it under control. But the first step is realizing that even that small .25ppm is damaging.

 

[dayak]

yes my filter is suitable it is aqua clear 110 and my tank is smaller than 100 but bigger than 50, i customized the media with whats come with it, cut the white foam in half so i can fit in ceramic rings and polishing pad in it hence more filteration.
if u remember on my previous couple pages back and understood it correctly, when i posted the numbers i said ammo was 0.025 up from last week which was 0 and i also gave u the numbers of other bad contamination that risking the fish health that when i do 50% WC even more than that

 

[Juxtaroberto]

So then the only other option is that Stress Zyme isn't working properly.

 

[dayak]

So then the only other option is that Stress Zyme isn't working properly.

it is possible its partially working..is i said partially because i always monitor the water parameter, if it dont work i should have the same result as my tap water with high ammo
i will look into it after a week from after the prime treatment, i can only trouble shoot one at a time to narrow down whats and what, as right now i just did my second water change the last result shows positive, and see if i keep can reduplicate it.