progress of the aro noob

[Juxtaroberto]

This is incorrect. Having a higher amount of ammonia does not make the beneficial bacteria grow any faster. The priority here should be the health of the fish and ammonia or nitrite levels need be kept under .25ppm. Prime should be used as a "band-aid" not a "cure all".

The colony can only grow to accommodate the amount of ammonia in the water. Having more ammonia does not speed up colony growth, but removing it sufficiently will hinder its growth. If every time it climbs you remove a large fraction of it, then the bacterial colony will only be able to grow according to how much ammonia you're leaving in the tank, not how much the fish are producing. Considering that nitrifying bacteria's doubling time is 24-48 hours, this could lengthen the amount of time needed for the colony to grow to a sufficient size considerably.

Prime is being used as a band-aid in this case, while the tank finishes cycling. The good thing about it is that it leaves the ammonia and nitrite usable to the BB, while nontoxic to the fish. Everybody wins.

 

[Hondacrx2]

Ok I am new to arrows but I can say fx5's are good filters. But I dislike the idea of only having one filter. My tank turns over 15 times a hour and I have no water quality issues...... Plus it's easier to take care of.

 

[dayak]

thing still bad with water, only time will tell if its gets better or the fish will get sick which one preveil put ur money on it LOL

sbuse, yes my progress went down on water quality but thats why its progress it has to be up and down, and tell me what is ur "recommended" tank size for 7 inch aro?
the way i see it my 20G for my little aro was sufficient and so is the current tank for my 7 inch, that tank still got lives for the current fish for months ahead, and im good while browsing for some good deal.
besides theres alot of monster tank for sale on my area and no i will not buy brand-new tank, not that i cant afford it its just not worth it while people selling their their 150G+ tank everyday here locally.

the prime i use is a band-aid once the problem fixed i will not use it anymore

 

[dayak]

yes fx5 is good filter and no doubt
and if u read this thread the filter is ac110 i modified the media and powerhead sponge filter 660

 

[sbuse]

thing still bad with water, only time will tell if its gets better or the fish will get sick which one preveil put ur money on it LOL

sbuse, yes my progress went down on water quality but thats why its progress it has to be up and down, and tell me what is ur "recommended" tank size for 7 inch aro?
the way i see it my 20G for my little aro was sufficient and so is the current tank for my 7 inch, that tank still got lives for the current fish for months ahead, and im good while browsing for some good deal.
besides theres alot of monster tank for sale on my area and no i will not buy brand-new tank, not that i cant afford it its just not worth it while people selling their their 150G+ tank everyday here locally.

the prime i use is a band-aid once the problem fixed i will not use it anymore

yes fx5 is good filter and no doubt
and if u read this thread the filter is ac110 i modified the media and powerhead sponge filter 660

i actually put my aros into a 180gal or 120gal at that size. they are WAY more relaxed after the larger tank. also they seem to grow faster when not confind to a smaller tank. thats what i do and thats what i think about a good tank size for a 7-8" aro. i have taken an aro off some friends that had it in a 55gal and it was 13". it looked over cramped.

i did read this. doesn't change the fact that you need the fx5. if you can get it and don't, for the reason you have enough filteration that would be a mistake. you can never have enough filtration.

one thing you can do to help is get a pothoes plant from walmart for $5 and clean the dirt of its roots. then put the roots in the tank. the plant will help the water quality issue. not fix it now, but help it now and later. i do this on all my tanks. i also have bamboo in all my hob filters. i have also put a pothoes in an AC75 with just the sponge for the roots to grow into. all things you could do.

ex of my filtration on the 180gal. an fx5, emperor 400, emperor 200, 8 amazon swards, bamboo in the emperors, 2 pothoes shoots. water is always perfict, never have any ammonia, nitrite and the nitrate never goes above 10ppm.

 

[Bderick67]

The colony can only grow to accommodate the amount of ammonia in the water. Having more ammonia does not speed up colony growth, but removing it sufficiently will hinder its growth. If every time it climbs you remove a large fraction of it, then the bacterial colony will only be able to grow according to how much ammonia you're leaving in the tank, not how much the fish are producing. Considering that nitrifying bacteria's doubling time is 24-48 hours, this could lengthen the amount of time needed for the colony to grow to a sufficient size considerably.

Prime is being used as a band-aid in this case, while the tank finishes cycling. The good thing about it is that it leaves the ammonia and nitrite usable to the BB, while nontoxic to the fish. Everybody wins.

As long as fish are in the tank there is a constant source of ammonia. As long as there is .25ppm the bacteria will grow and the fish will suffer little. If the water tests below .25ppm of ammonia then no water change is needed. This same goes for nitrite levels.

 

[dayak]

i actually put my aros into a 180gal or 120gal at that size. they are WAY more relaxed after the larger tank. also they seem to grow faster when not confind to a smaller tank. thats what i do and thats what i think about a good tank size for a 7-8" aro. i have taken an aro off some friends that had it in a 55gal and it was 13". it looked over cramped.

i did read this. doesn't change the fact that you need the fx5. if you can get it and don't, for the reason you have enough filteration that would be a mistake. you can never have enough filtration.

one thing you can do to help is get a pothoes plant from walmart for $5 and clean the dirt of its roots. then put the roots in the tank. the plant will help the water quality issue. not fix it now, but help it now and later. i do this on all my tanks. i also have bamboo in all my hob filters. i have also put a pothoes in an AC75 with just the sponge for the roots to grow into. all things you could do.

ex of my filtration on the 180gal. an fx5, emperor 400, emperor 200, 8 amazon swards, bamboo in the emperors, 2 pothoes shoots. water is always perfict, never have any ammonia, nitrite and the nitrate never goes above 10ppm.

hey thanks for ur input about the plant, that might work!!
btw i agree theres never enough filteration but the line is to see whats is enough and just right
its just like oil change u can do it everyday or every 3 mos - 1 year or 3000-25K miles, and theres never too early to do oil change
but if u take the oil to be analyized, u get the exact sweet spot for it..sorry for the off topic on that

 

[sbuse]

hey thanks for ur input about the plant, that might work!!
btw i agree theres never enough filteration but the line is to see whats is enough and just right
its just like oil change u can do it everyday or every 3 mos - 1 year or 3000-25K miles, and theres never too early to do oil change
but if u take the oil to be analyized, u get the exact sweet spot for it..sorry for the off topic on that

the line you speak of is good for this tank. what about when you need the bigger tank ready? if you get it now it is one less thing to get later. if you put it on the tank now it will be seeded and ready for the big tank.

 

[dayak]

when i have biger tank, i will have live plants in it, so far i only have one live plant it..
i missed my chance getting 250G tank with everything for 100 bucks, it sold LOL
was too busy with my tank problem.
im treating my tank with salt now and bump the temp to 88..since i noticed ick with the aro

 

[tokyogasmask]

when i have biger tank, i will have live plants in it, so far i only have one live plant it..
i missed my chance getting 250G tank with everything for 100 bucks, it sold LOL
was too busy with my tank problem.
im treating my tank with salt now and bump the temp to 88..since i noticed ick with the aro

Quelle surprise!

Stressed out fish have a lowered immune system. Which then brings on illnesses etc.

Your poor Aro must be going through hell at the moment what with all the crazy stuff going on in that *prison* I mean tank...

I sadly don't see the best future for that little thing.