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    Proper way to pronounce bichir?

    Discussion in 'Polypterus' started by cmersits, Feb 15, 2006.

    1. cmersits

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      So what is the proper way to pronounce "Bichir"

      I've been calling it "Bye-Char" but I think I'm wrong lol
       
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      WHY BICHIR?

      When Europeans (French) discovered the genus Polypterus in 1809 it had already been known along the Nile since the time of the pharoahs. The local peoples referred to them as bichirs (unknown pronunciation and spelling). While unable to come up with an exact meaning for the word it was most likely a descriptive term (''whip'' has been suggested) for this type of fish.

      The French most likely pronounced it as phonetically as possible to the orginal native word and came up with bee-sheer as a pronunciation and spelled 'bichir'. Since this would be the name of these fish for
      several years until they were scientifically described and put into the proper family it became an accepted common name.

      However the correct English pronunciation is up for grabs. Several dictionaries all have their own pronunciation including the below:
      bee cher
      beech er
      biker
      bercheer
      bi cher
      bir chir is common in England
      Also known by the common name lobed fin pike,dinosaur eel.
      The name Polypterus : poly=many + pterus=fins and is pronounced po-lyp'-terus.
       
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      thanx i had actually been wondering that too
       
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      thanks i have a few albino sengalas and i wondered about how too pronounce it
       
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      it irritates me that people say "polyp-terrace"

      its polly-terrace. SILENT P!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111oneoneoneone

      and i also believe that delhezi is pronounced "del-hezz-ee"
      it is not a latin word and thus should not be pronounced in such fashion.
       
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      I see your pronunciation
      and raise you a pterodactyl
       
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      arguing every detail of how to pronounce latin names is asinine in the end; the scientific community even pronounces various scientific names differently...in most cases they have moved well past arguing about that and on to (at least theoretically) more worthwhile arguments and issues.

      and for the record, most ichthyologists and fish ecologists i know pronounce that second "p", and when it shows up similarly in invertebrates, most entomologists and the like also pronounce it.

      so, one can sound different and say it how they think is correct in the case of Latin names, but i would be slower to criticize telling other people they are wrong. won't help one's case or make many friends :) --
      --solomon
       
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      wow this is an old thread!
       
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      Please read the primers before posting/bumping
       
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      True, the correct pronunciation has diminished over time. But in respect to the fact that Latin is also the root language of the French, I try to use the language how it was taught to me thus far.

      Being from hawaii, pronunciation matters very much. That's the point in trying to make.

      Apologies for the slight de rail.
      It is about pronunciation though...

      Aloha
       

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