Big Roc;3074432; said:
Go ahead and feel free to guarantee your "wild" fish here to clear it all up.
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Go ahead and feel free to guarantee your "wild" fish here to clear it all up.
I have delt with Big Roc many times and have never had a problem. He helped me learn how to ship fish and ever since then we have kept in touch and traded back and forth. All his fish are legit, and in the best health.
I have only recived africans from him, but i'm sure his S and C cichlids are in just as good health.
I have only recived africans from him, but i'm sure his S and C cichlids are in just as good health.
I have ordered from Big Roc several times. My fish have arrived alive and as described or better every time. He gives me great prices on fish and shipping. I cant say the same for some of the other online vendors out there. He gets stuff that other vendors have trouble getting and comes through on special requests. I placed a order with 2 days ago. One time he even called me on my cell to make sure the fish arrived OK. I only deal with 2-3 vendors on MFK and he is one of them.
I sell every fish I raise, no need to bash you other than you are not selling wild caught fish. At least those 4 species, I have never said he didn't have good fish, healthy fish or correctly i.d. for species, just someone asked me and I gave an honest answer. I don't like people who do this kind of stuff. Man I go to Central America and collect fish, there is absolutely no commerical exportation from Honduras, Guatamala or southern Mexico. It's that simple. You didn't go to all these places and collect these fish or you would have collection locations for each species, I bet you could not even come close to telling us what river they came from. So there is no way you can have wild fish to sell of those species. It's very simple, you ain't fooling nobody. Ken
crowconor;3075071; said:
I won't, he's a class act and has amazing fish that are what he says they are.
Sorry i have to disagree with you guys but I have never had a bad experience with him. I would do the same if I bought fish from someone else and they were getting bashed on.
fishfarm;3075585; said:
I don't know where he got them but someone did somewhere. I don't know where there even from but couldn't someone get them wild. Is there a web site that I could go to to find out what country's have export bans?
Still waiting for the "guarantee" on the wild fish. It should be a simple thing to clear up, but my sense is Ken has hit it on the head.
This is not trying to sell my fish over someone else, I could care less. Anyone every here me say anything bad about Jeff Rapps? Nope!
It's this simple, there is no commerical fish collectors in these countries, you can not get small wild caught fish unless you collect them your self or know someone who did, I have been on 5 of the last 6 collecting trips to Honduras since 2004, Guess what Roc was not there. There was one collecting trip to Guatamala in 2007, most of the fish were conficated by US fish and Wildlife when they came back into the country because they did not have all the proper paperwork, I tried to get the fish back for them, but was not successful, I know all 4 people who went, guess what he was not there. The only place you can get wild RTM is the Rio Montague basin in southern Guatamala and northern Honduras. He has never been there and does not know anyone who has, I do. I can tell you every single time RTM were caught in the last 5 years, by whom and where they are now. And it's not in New England. No one has collected that region since May 2007 when we were last there, any wild RTM in the hobby are all 12" long by now. The only person in recent memory who has collected wild trimaculatum and grammodes was Dr. Michael Tobler last Feb and March in southern Mexico and they were all perserved for science. I saw Michael last weekend in Indianpolis, guess what, Roc was not there. I'm sure this guy has nice fish, I don't have a problem with him selling his fish, just calling fish wild caught when they were not. Every wild Central American fish in my hatchery has a specific collection location, I can tell you when they were caught and by whom. Roc whomever sold you these fish as wild caught, took you man. Ken
It's this simple, there is no commerical fish collectors in these countries, you can not get small wild caught fish unless you collect them your self or know someone who did, I have been on 5 of the last 6 collecting trips to Honduras since 2004, Guess what Roc was not there. There was one collecting trip to Guatamala in 2007, most of the fish were conficated by US fish and Wildlife when they came back into the country because they did not have all the proper paperwork, I tried to get the fish back for them, but was not successful, I know all 4 people who went, guess what he was not there. The only place you can get wild RTM is the Rio Montague basin in southern Guatamala and northern Honduras. He has never been there and does not know anyone who has, I do. I can tell you every single time RTM were caught in the last 5 years, by whom and where they are now. And it's not in New England. No one has collected that region since May 2007 when we were last there, any wild RTM in the hobby are all 12" long by now. The only person in recent memory who has collected wild trimaculatum and grammodes was Dr. Michael Tobler last Feb and March in southern Mexico and they were all perserved for science. I saw Michael last weekend in Indianpolis, guess what, Roc was not there. I'm sure this guy has nice fish, I don't have a problem with him selling his fish, just calling fish wild caught when they were not. Every wild Central American fish in my hatchery has a specific collection location, I can tell you when they were caught and by whom. Roc whomever sold you these fish as wild caught, took you man. Ken
No, I didn't travel the world collecting these fish to sell, but they were imported and my exporter had these fish on his list. Just because certian countries don't export fish doesn't mean you can't get them. You pay enough money you can get whatever you want. How come evryone gets Venezuelan fish, but Ven. doesn't export fish to USA? Because the Columbians sneak into Ven and smuggle the fish back over thier boarders so they can send them to us. What do you need a pic of the fisherman holding the fish in his hand from wherever the hell he got it from? I'm not the one to sit here and go back and forth like little kids, if you don't like my fish then don't buy them. IT'S AS SIMPLE AS THAT!!!!
