Quick question regarding adding Green Terrors to tank, How many at the beginning?!

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When you take the eggs out the male will start pestering the female to breed straight away, which she cannot for about 6 weeks, leave the fry in there they will be great parents till there ready to spawn again when they will kill of most of the fry so they don't eat the new spawn.
 
It's going to be a fair bit of time before I have to worry about that but it's good to know these things well in advanced. I read that large adults can have huge amounts of fry.

I will keep this thread updated with how things are coming along.
 
Yeah so it's not nutrients, for sure! I change my water frequently and have a light bioload my tank rarely deviates from my tap water. I am sure the lighting is the culprit. It's important to run good spectrum. I used finnex planted plus.

Also what is your temp? How often are you changing water? Do you have good gas exchange? Do you leave the algae covered leaves or dying leaves on the plant? If so it's best to cut back anything other than good growth. I am very aggressive in making sure I don't leave leafs with algae on the plant.
Temp is around 24°c

Water changes are done weekly on that tank, I change 60% or more each time. I'm obsessed with my test kits, the water gets tested before and after changes, if the nitrate reads over 10ppm after the change l, it gets another, larger change the next day (this applies to all my tanks).

I cut off the leaves with algae ob them, but if I cut off every leaf that's dying I'd be left with a rhizome. :D
 
Sounds like lighting is your only hope of getting it to thrive. Minerals and such found in my tap water vs your is surely different. This also could make the difference in our bolbitis.

I am moving Sunday and the water in my new place has much higher calcium carb levels and higher pH. It will likely have some affect on my plants but I couldn't tell you if it will be a good or bad one. Time will tell.
 
I'm in Tasmania so our tap water is probably very different. :D


Maybe I'm just guna have to get off of my lazy butt and do some proper research.. Thanks for all the help. :)
 
Depends on collection point.
Alf stalsberg has collection data from many collection points for a rivulatus ranging from soft to very hard.
Well, unless you can provide a link and show me otherwise......I think you are mistaken.
Alf Stalsberg certainly did take water chemistry measurements for a Green Terror. But it is for the fish he was named after. Andinoacara stalsbergi. As in the link herehttp://www.senckenberg.de/files/con...z59-2/02_vertebrate_zoology_59-2_musilova.pdf Five measurememnts are cited that Alf Stalsberg took for the newly described Andinoacara stalsbergi. All showing very hard to extremely hard water chemistry. Some of that info was already available elsewhere, previous to this classification in 2009.
The cichlidae.com profile on Andinoacara rivulatus http://www.cichlidae.com/species.php?id=4 has been availabvle to all for at least 5-6 years now. Previous to reading it, I thought as you did, that the common GT ( A. rivulatus) came from harder water. I searched and searched .....and found nothing contrary. I realized that it is just part of the confusion that came about previously, with more then one fish being called a Green Terror, and the wrong species thought by aquarist to be the 'real rivulatus'.
Bear in mind that previous to A. stalsbergi getting described in 2009, Alf stalsberg and the rest of the hobby wrongly thought and called this fish Aequidens rivulatus. The 'real rivulatus' was being called Aequidens sp. 'goldsuam". Also, initially for a brief period, Alf Stalsberg didn't accept the new classification, and was calling Andinoacara rivulatus by one of it's synonyms (Andinoacara aequinoctialis) possibly further adding to the confusion.
The paragraph in the cichlidae.com profile describing the water measurements taken for A. rivulatus implies that many measurements were taken through out the range of the fish. "At most 1* dGH" is extremely soft water. I believe the notion of the common GT (A. rivulatus) originating from hard water stems from the confusion over names in the past and more then one fish being called Green Terror.
 
So does this mean gold saum will have a hard time in hard water in our tanks?
IMO, no.
The common GT is not too fussy about particular water chemistry. IMO, that is true of many cichlids , if not most.

Of coarse there are different methods and approaches in the hobby. Some will want to replicate water chemistry measurements from their native habitat more closely. IMO quite unnecessary, especially for many aquarium strain fish, and possibly counter productive or detrimental if it leads to more unstable water chemistry or less water change due to difficulty.
 
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