Rare and expensive

[Staszek]

Petrochromis sp Red Bulu Point is both rare and expensive.

It's very difficult to collect in large numbers, the are mean so if you get them they will kill each other and it's difficult to get fry from them.

All other fish mentioned can be gotten, they are collected in large numbers.......Bentho Tricoti, Frontosa Zaires and Tropheus are collected in huge numbers, but the Illangi is by far the most expensive all others are relatively cheap.

I will agree that Enantiopus sp. Kilesa is somewhat hard to come by and pricey.

 

[LadyBarbara001]

I can get Ikola (Kaiser) for $8 per fish, not rare at all, not many Tropheus are rare. Maswa Duboisi may become rare because it is now illegal to collect them in the wild. Congo fronts are more expensive because of the danger involved in collecting them, they are not rare. Vics can be considered rare because they do not have a big following therefore there is not a high demand for them. Benthochromis tricoti IS rare because it is VERY hard to breed them in captivity and importing them is highly expensive because of high mortality rates. There are not many rare cichlids, there are just cichlids that are harder to get your hands on, you just have to know the right people.

Vics are considered rare because a lot of them are endangered and some of them are extinct in the wild. It is a shame they don't have a larger following; beautiful fish, easy to care for, and interesting personalities.

 

[JamesRiggs]

I will agree that Enantiopus sp. Kilesa is somewhat hard to come by and pricey.

Females are hard to come by, after spawning kilesa clutches are normally very male heavy. I can call 3 or 4 people now that each have well over 100 of these fish. As I can get them for $10-$12 a fish.

Vics are considered rare because a lot of them are endangered and some of them are extinct in the wild. It is a shame they don't have a larger following; beautiful fish, easy to care for, and interesting personalities.

Part of the reason I dont keeps Vics or Malawians, Caring for them does not present a challenge, I enjoy a challenge, weather it is getting a fish to breed, or just keeping the thing alive period.

 

[LadyBarbara001]

Part of the reason I dont keeps Vics or Malawians, Caring for them does not present a challenge, I enjoy a challenge, weather it is getting a fish to breed, or just keeping the thing alive period.

Ah, that's where I differ from you. I prefer something I'm relatively sure I'm not going to kill. I don't mind a challenge, but I get a little stressed with harder to keep fish. My husband wants a shell dweller tank, and that will be a start with Tangs for us.

 

[Bogwoodbruce]

Tropheus chilanga, we carry a lot of wild Malawis and tangs were selling adults of these for £40 ea.

Wild redfin kandangos £200 a pair.

Wild moori £75 a pair.

Loads and loads.

 

[Bogwoodbruce]

I can get Ikola (Kaiser) for $8 per fish, not rare at all, not many Tropheus are rare. Maswa Duboisi may become rare because it is now illegal to collect them in the wild. Congo fronts are more expensive because of the danger involved in collecting them, they are not rare. Vics can be considered rare because they do not have a big following therefore there is not a high demand for them. Benthochromis tricoti IS rare because it is VERY hard to breed them in captivity and importing them is highly expensive because of high mortality rates. There are not many rare cichlids, there are just cichlids that are harder to get your hands on, you just have to know the right people.

We have the same trouble bringing in wild stuff from the congo. Nobody goes up there and you wouldnt want to with some protection.

We sell Tanbred and F1 tropheus at 3" for around £14. The wild stuff ranges from £20-£45 for adult fish, they arent really rare.

 

[JamesRiggs]

We have the same trouble bringing in wild stuff from the congo. Nobody goes up there and you wouldnt want to with some protection.

We sell Tanbred and F1 tropheus at 3" for around £14. The wild stuff ranges from £20-£45 for adult fish, they arent really rare.

You seem to be right on par, I would love to have some of the Congo variants of Frontosa. But I am unwilling to pay such a high price tag. I sure hope that area cleans up soon so they can begin collecting more steadily.

Ah, that's where I differ from you. I prefer something I'm relatively sure I'm not going to kill. I don't mind a challenge, but I get a little stressed with harder to keep fish. My husband wants a shell dweller tank, and that will be a start with Tangs for us.

You will enjoy shellies! A good start to Tanganyika. Plus you wont be discouraged by julies or brichardi (most people start with) when they kill off all their tankmates. Multifaciatus is a good start. Once you get past those move up to some of the more interesting ones.

 

[Bogwoodbruce]

You seem to be right on par, I would love to have some of the Congo variants of Frontosa. But I am unwilling to pay such a high price tag. I sure hope that area cleans up soon so they can begin collecting more steadily.



You will enjoy shellies! A good start to Tanganyika. Plus you wont be discouraged by julies or brichardi (most people start with) when they kill off all their tankmates. Multifaciatus is a good start. Once you get past those move up to some of the more interesting ones.

Apparently we were talking to our bloke who does some of the collecting, he said you'd find bodied floating on the water. Not worthing risking life for a fish

 

[Staszek]

Females are hard to come by, after spawning kilesa clutches are normally very male heavy. I can call 3 or 4 people now that each have well over 100 of these fish. As I can get them for $10-$12 a fish.

I'll call you on this one.

I'm interested in at least 50 if they are really Kilesa.

Please PM me with a contact.

 

[DISCIPLE]

WHITE LABS ARE RARE HERE. IVE ONLY SEEN THEM 2XS IN MY LIFE. THE 2ND TIME I BOUGHT THEM !