Also my local fish store once had A hydrocynus vittatus I decided to wait a week to buy it, came back it was gone.Same with a tsn that i decided to wait and buy it was gone. Boy ive been looking for any species of african tigerfish, but have never seen one for sale again.I consider those fish rare, but people get them easier than me and just keep buying them cause they dont have that one. Like the any bagarius that people want to buy because of their rarity, but than u end up with 3 fish that sits their and does nothing whether than 1. You should just be happy with the one new fish u just got and be proud how rare it is.And be happy with your current fish stocks.I have a Silver aro,jag chiclid, and indo pacific tarpon which i am specificly proud of.
Rare fish theory
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that is a great picture of them, love the silver streaks on its body! so you would say they're growing pretty fast then?bassmasterp;4396813; said:
Again, I'm not looking for praises, but venting my frustration with the hobby sometimes. I wish more people would appreciate the same type of fish that I like and what I do to acquire them.franchise513;4396742; said:
On the datnoid, I've spent a lot of time reading and thinking and here is my humble opinion.
I think we may have to split them up into even more groups than just indo datnoid, true widebar (pulcher), of course the thin bar, silver and new guinea is obvious so I'll leave those alone.
I'll post a series of pictures supporting my findings.
first is the Datnoid microlepis, true Indo datnoid, this fish actually stays yellow to orange, and has 8 bars, starting from the front to back. This fish is not frequently found, and the color is almost always "stable" I've seen some 19" ones, and these are pretty rare to find!
2nd set is the true datnoid pulcher from chaopraya in Thailand. This fish has not been circulating for years now, only some large ones are still found left over from years ago. Non of these have been exported in recent years, this fish is rarer than the asian arowana by 1000 times right now! and I can't even get them.
Notice the tail band always sweeps into one., so with a total of seperate bands of 6 bands only. Large and small specimens, and their colors are usually bright golden color!
Notice the tail band always sweeps into one., so with a total of seperate bands of 6 bands only. Large and small specimens, and their colors are usually bright golden color!
and now here comes the so called cambodian, vietnam, whatever, they often have split bars on one side or another, typically will have 7 bars, since the tail bar does not usually connect, or 8 if the split on one side is complete. they're the closest to a wide bar, some look almost identical. but their colors usually have a gray overtone, some will stay nice and yellow, but most are not stable. I have experience with selling this fish and keeping them as well. here are some examles, and I belive this is the fish we have on hand now that we're dealing with. I'm not calling it a different species, but it could be, or at least a geographical variation of datnoid pulcher. they look almost just like a chaopraya, but the tail is different and color stability is usually not there.
some may remember the one in the first picture, was from my shop, it was always black, so this guy jarret talked me into selling it, then he moved it, and it turned bright! this and look at the tail band!
some may remember the one in the first picture, was from my shop, it was always black, so this guy jarret talked me into selling it, then he moved it, and it turned bright! this and look at the tail band!
in my opinion, this last group really is very similar the the $5.00 indos that were imported last year or two. they all have 7 bands, some have 8 if there was a split.
I don't think the ones we had were true "indo datnoids", datnoid microlepis as pictured in the first set of pictures.
I don't have too many pictures of them, this is one that I sold, it was always brown in color, but notice, it has almost 8 bars if you cound that half bar, or on some it would be split.
Hope that helps clarify this muddy subject.
I don't think the ones we had were true "indo datnoids", datnoid microlepis as pictured in the first set of pictures.
I don't have too many pictures of them, this is one that I sold, it was always brown in color, but notice, it has almost 8 bars if you cound that half bar, or on some it would be split.
Hope that helps clarify this muddy subject.
they have sure made their way to Japan already, at about $200.00 each retail. but notice they all have a split tail band, almost non that I can see have a connecting tail band.
yep i agree with you on the dats Wes, I was just saying the cambodian dats because it does suck not to see anymore true ST's in the hobby and that we probably wont see anymore ever again. And if anyone can bring them in I knew it would be you. And I always have appreciated what your doing for hobbiests and keep up the good work!
