Ok I will ignore your extreme condescension in an effort to keep this from becoming an argument instead of a discussion. All I said was that I had experience with the subject and I never had an issue with it. Plenty of people keep bichirs, rays, gar, and other similar fish with amazing results. However this isn't always the case. I never dismissed your experience nor did I ever once say I know more than you (because more than likely I don't). And my "you people" comment was directed at the fact you think a pleco WILL kill a bichir. It wasn't said that a pleco can kill, might kill, could possibly kill, or even more than likely will kill. I guess I've never owned any homicidal plecos. So how about we agree to disagree and i'll go back to death row aka the pleco sub forum.