Red Devils to be BANNED in oz
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Okay enough about geographic and onto the topic...where are the source of Red Devil being banned in Aussie? I can't find any source of Red Devil being banned in Aussie at all.
Pin point with a source please...if you want to save the Red Devil, other wise I'm going to assume that this thread is just to fool us ]\/[onsters. And assuming can be a very dangerous thing to do, OH IT SOUNDS GREAT! LETS GO FOR IT!...but what's really behind it?
Pin point with a source please...if you want to save the Red Devil, other wise I'm going to assume that this thread is just to fool us ]\/[onsters. And assuming can be a very dangerous thing to do, OH IT SOUNDS GREAT! LETS GO FOR IT!...but what's really behind it?
I have a friend that work at the DPI and it will be public in about a month or so....... And yes its Australia sorry for you northern's.
i cant see why red devils would be banned...
australia has some of the most strict and non sensical import laws
dovii, umbies, pacu arent allowed to be imported, although we do have them here no fresh genes have been added to the gene pool for years, therefore our dovii have pretty **** colourings.
only possible reason i could think that they maybe banned is the large feral population we have in the south of the country, living in the cooling pondage from a coal fired power plant.
if you look up hazelwood power station, cooling pondage cichlids etc youll see what i mean.
50% of the country theres no chance any cichlids would survive in native waters due to the climate being too cold, only reason they survive in hazelwood is due to the powerplant which keeps the water a pleasant 25-26degs all year around.
perfect for convicts, red deviels, some mongrel yet very pretty zebras, red breasted taliapia, european carp and ells pretty much.
australia is great at banning things that dont make sense, blanket banning things is always seen as a solution to bigger problems.
if they ban devils it wont work because there is basically a massive unlimited supply 2 hours west of the 2nd largest city, melbourne. when i mean unlimited if it takes more then 2-3mins to catch one you move to another spot.
australia has some of the most strict and non sensical import laws
dovii, umbies, pacu arent allowed to be imported, although we do have them here no fresh genes have been added to the gene pool for years, therefore our dovii have pretty **** colourings.
only possible reason i could think that they maybe banned is the large feral population we have in the south of the country, living in the cooling pondage from a coal fired power plant.
if you look up hazelwood power station, cooling pondage cichlids etc youll see what i mean.
50% of the country theres no chance any cichlids would survive in native waters due to the climate being too cold, only reason they survive in hazelwood is due to the powerplant which keeps the water a pleasant 25-26degs all year around.
perfect for convicts, red deviels, some mongrel yet very pretty zebras, red breasted taliapia, european carp and ells pretty much.
australia is great at banning things that dont make sense, blanket banning things is always seen as a solution to bigger problems.
if they ban devils it wont work because there is basically a massive unlimited supply 2 hours west of the 2nd largest city, melbourne. when i mean unlimited if it takes more then 2-3mins to catch one you move to another spot.
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Minister for Primary Industries, Fisheries and Rural and Regional Queensland
The Honourable Tim Mulherin
Wednesday, June 24, 2009
Blacklist bans ornamental fish species in Queensland
24 June 2009
Blacklist bans ornamental fish species in Queensland
Aquarium owners should check their fish tanks and ponds because more than 70 species of ornamental fish will be banned in Queensland under changes to noxious fish legislation.
The ban takes effect on 1 January 2010.
People owning these soon-to-be banned fish can keep them but only if they apply for a permit before August.
Minister for Primary Industries, Fisheries and Rural and Regional Queensland Tim Mulherin today announced that fish species from 30 family groups would be added to the banned list.
Today Im urging fish hobbyists to check their tanks for species about to be banned, the Minister said.
This includes alligator gar, African pike, giant cichlid, squarehead catfish, the marble goby and silver carp.
The expansion of Queenslands declared noxious fish list from 18 to more than 70 species means some ornamental fish species currently traded will be prohibited.
These changes have been made to protect our freshwater habitats and native fish stocks from these imported and invasive species.
If they were to be released into our waterways they would harm native species, damage the environment, and could severely impact on our freshwater recreational and commercial fisheries.
Weve already got a battle on our hands trying to eradicate tilapia, one of the worlds most invasive fish species, from waterways around the State.
We dont want a repeat.
Our studies show that if tilapia become established in the Gulf of Carpentaria Catchments, they could reduce yields in the commercial barramundi fishery by 20% - costing more than $2 million a year.
Mr Mulherin said these legislative changes would bring Queensland into line with the National Noxious Fish List.
They will mainly affect hobbyists and the aquarium and aquaculture industries, and we have been working closely with these groups to provide options for fish owners and traders, he said.
For people who currently own these species, provisions have been put in place for the fish to be surrendered, disposed of or kept under a permit.
Permits are free and allow people who currently possess a newly banned noxious fish to retain them, however owners cannot trade, sell, replace or breed these fish.
Noxious fish can also be voluntarily surrendered to Queensland Primary Industries and Fisheries (QPIF) for humane disposal, or QPIF can give advice to owners wishing to manage disposal themselves.
If people dont surrender or dispose of noxious fish or seek permits by 1 August, they can be fined up to $200 000 if found with these fish in their possession.
Im also reminding people that it is still an offence to possess or catch fish that are already declared noxious, such as tilapia, and penalties up to $200 000 also apply.
Permit applications must be submitted before 1 August 2009. For a list of Queenslands noxious fish list or a permit application, contact Queensland Primary Industries and Fisheries on 13 25 23 or visit www.dpi.qld.gov.au
Fish species already declared noxious and therefore prohibited in Queensland
Common name Scientific name
Bluegill Lepomis spp. (Centrarchidae)
Carp Cyprinus carpio (Cyprinidae)
Chinese weatherfish, weatherloach Misgurnus anguillicaudatus (Cobitididae/Cobitidae)
Climbing perch Anabas testudineus (Anabantidae)
Electric eel Electrophorus electricus (Electrophoridae)
Gambusia, mosquitofish Gambusia spp. (Poeciliidae)
Grass carp Ctenopharyngodon idella (Cyprinidae)
Largemouth bass Micropterus salmoides (Centrarchidae)
Nile perch (live) Lates niloticus (Centropomidae)
Parasitic catfish, pencil catfish, candiru catfish Family Trichomycteridae
Pike cichlids Crenicichla spp. (Cichlidae)
Piranhas, pacus Fish of the subfamily Serrasalminae (within family Characidae) all species except Metynnis spp. and Myleus rubripinnis
Snakeheads Channa spp. (Channidae)
Tiger catfish Pseudoplatystoma fasciatum (Pimelodidae)
Tigerfishes (African), pike characin Hydrocynus spp. (subfamily Hydrocyninae or Alestinae)
Tigerfishes (South American), trahiras Erythrinus, Hoplerythrinus and Hoplias spp. (Erythrinidae)
Tilapia Tilapia, Oreochromis and Sarotherodon spp. (Cichlidae)
Walking catfish, airbreathing catfish Family Clariidae
New additions to Queenslands declared noxious fish list after 1 August 2009
Common name Scientific name
Aba aba Gymnarchus niloticus (Gymnarchidae)
African butter catfish Schilbe mystus (Schilbeidae)
African lungfish Protopterus annectens (Protopteridae)
African pike Hepsetus odoe (Hepsetidae)
African pike-characin, tubenose poacher, fin eater Species in the subfamily Ichthyborinae
American gar, armoured gar, spotted gar, alligator gars Atractosteus spp. and Lepisosteus spp. (Lepisosteidae)
Angler, frogmouth and squarehead catfishes Chaca chaca (Chacidae)
Banded jewelfish Hemichromis fasciatus (Cichlidae)
Banded or spotted sunfish Entire family Centrachidae
Bighead carp Aristichthys nobilis (Cyprinidae)
Bottlenose, cornish jack Mormyrops anguilloides (Mormyridae)
Bowfin Amia calva (Amiidae)
Brook stickleback Culaea inconstans (Gasterosteidae)
Catla Catla catla (Cyprinidae)
Chameleon goby, striped goby Tridentiger trigonocephalus (Gobiidae)
Chinese swordfish Psephurus gladius (Polyodontidae)
Copper mahseer Neolissochilus hexagonolepis (Cyprinidae)
Electric catfish Malapterurus spp. (Malapteruridae)
European catfish, wels catfish Silurus spp. (Siluridae)
Flatnose catfish, dwarf giraffe catfish Anaspidoglanis macrostoma (Bagridae)
Forktail lates Lates microlepis (Centropomidae)
Fourspine stickleback Apeltes quadracus (Gasterosteidae)
Freshwater minnow Zacco platypus (Cyprinidae)
Giant barb Catlocarpio siamensis (Cyprinidae)
Giant cichlid, yellow belly cichlid Boulengerochromis microlepis (Cichlidae)
Marble goby Oxyeleotris marmorata (eleotridae)
Mississippi paddlefish Polyodon spathula (Polyodontidae)
Mrigal Cirrhinus cirrhosus (Cyprinidae)
Ninespine stickleback Pungitius pungitius (Gasterosteidae)
Orange fin labeo, rohu Labeo calbasu and L. rohita (Cyprinidae)
Pike characin Acestrorhynchus microlepis (Acestrorhynchidae)
Pike minnow, pike killifish Belonesox belizanus (Poeciliidae)
Pikes Esox spp. (Esocidae)
Pink, slender, greenwoods, mortimers, cunean and green happy Sargochromis spp. (Cichlidae)
Purpleface largemouth Serranochromis spp. (Cichlidae)
Pygmy sunfish Elassoma spp. (Elassomatidae)
Red Devil Amphilophus labiatus (Cichlidae)
Red swamp crayfish Procambarus clarkii (Cambaridae)
Ripsaw catfish, black doras, black shielded catfish Oxydoras spp. (Doradidae)
River carp, deccan, high backed, jungha, putitor, Thai mahseer Tor spp. (Cyprinidae)
Shiners Notropis spp. (Cyprinidae)
Silver carp Hypophthalmichthys molitrix (Cyprinidae)
Snooks Centropomus spp. (Centropomidae)
Southern redbelly dace Phoxinus erythrogaster (Cyprinidae)
Stinging catfish Heteropneustes fossilis (Heteropneustidae)
Ubangi shovelnose catfish Bagrus ubangensis (Bagridae)
Valencia toothcarp Valencia hispanica (Valenciidae)
Yellowfin goby Acanthogobius flavimanus (Gobiidae)
Minister for Primary Industries, Fisheries and Rural and Regional Queensland
The Honourable Tim Mulherin
Wednesday, June 24, 2009
Blacklist bans ornamental fish species in Queensland
24 June 2009
Blacklist bans ornamental fish species in Queensland
Aquarium owners should check their fish tanks and ponds because more than 70 species of ornamental fish will be banned in Queensland under changes to noxious fish legislation.
The ban takes effect on 1 January 2010.
People owning these soon-to-be banned fish can keep them but only if they apply for a permit before August.
Minister for Primary Industries, Fisheries and Rural and Regional Queensland Tim Mulherin today announced that fish species from 30 family groups would be added to the banned list.
Today Im urging fish hobbyists to check their tanks for species about to be banned, the Minister said.
This includes alligator gar, African pike, giant cichlid, squarehead catfish, the marble goby and silver carp.
The expansion of Queenslands declared noxious fish list from 18 to more than 70 species means some ornamental fish species currently traded will be prohibited.
These changes have been made to protect our freshwater habitats and native fish stocks from these imported and invasive species.
If they were to be released into our waterways they would harm native species, damage the environment, and could severely impact on our freshwater recreational and commercial fisheries.
Weve already got a battle on our hands trying to eradicate tilapia, one of the worlds most invasive fish species, from waterways around the State.
We dont want a repeat.
Our studies show that if tilapia become established in the Gulf of Carpentaria Catchments, they could reduce yields in the commercial barramundi fishery by 20% - costing more than $2 million a year.
Mr Mulherin said these legislative changes would bring Queensland into line with the National Noxious Fish List.
They will mainly affect hobbyists and the aquarium and aquaculture industries, and we have been working closely with these groups to provide options for fish owners and traders, he said.
For people who currently own these species, provisions have been put in place for the fish to be surrendered, disposed of or kept under a permit.
Permits are free and allow people who currently possess a newly banned noxious fish to retain them, however owners cannot trade, sell, replace or breed these fish.
Noxious fish can also be voluntarily surrendered to Queensland Primary Industries and Fisheries (QPIF) for humane disposal, or QPIF can give advice to owners wishing to manage disposal themselves.
If people dont surrender or dispose of noxious fish or seek permits by 1 August, they can be fined up to $200 000 if found with these fish in their possession.
Im also reminding people that it is still an offence to possess or catch fish that are already declared noxious, such as tilapia, and penalties up to $200 000 also apply.
Permit applications must be submitted before 1 August 2009. For a list of Queenslands noxious fish list or a permit application, contact Queensland Primary Industries and Fisheries on 13 25 23 or visit www.dpi.qld.gov.au
Fish species already declared noxious and therefore prohibited in Queensland
Common name Scientific name
Bluegill Lepomis spp. (Centrarchidae)
Carp Cyprinus carpio (Cyprinidae)
Chinese weatherfish, weatherloach Misgurnus anguillicaudatus (Cobitididae/Cobitidae)
Climbing perch Anabas testudineus (Anabantidae)
Electric eel Electrophorus electricus (Electrophoridae)
Gambusia, mosquitofish Gambusia spp. (Poeciliidae)
Grass carp Ctenopharyngodon idella (Cyprinidae)
Largemouth bass Micropterus salmoides (Centrarchidae)
Nile perch (live) Lates niloticus (Centropomidae)
Parasitic catfish, pencil catfish, candiru catfish Family Trichomycteridae
Pike cichlids Crenicichla spp. (Cichlidae)
Piranhas, pacus Fish of the subfamily Serrasalminae (within family Characidae) all species except Metynnis spp. and Myleus rubripinnis
Snakeheads Channa spp. (Channidae)
Tiger catfish Pseudoplatystoma fasciatum (Pimelodidae)
Tigerfishes (African), pike characin Hydrocynus spp. (subfamily Hydrocyninae or Alestinae)
Tigerfishes (South American), trahiras Erythrinus, Hoplerythrinus and Hoplias spp. (Erythrinidae)
Tilapia Tilapia, Oreochromis and Sarotherodon spp. (Cichlidae)
Walking catfish, airbreathing catfish Family Clariidae
New additions to Queenslands declared noxious fish list after 1 August 2009
Common name Scientific name
Aba aba Gymnarchus niloticus (Gymnarchidae)
African butter catfish Schilbe mystus (Schilbeidae)
African lungfish Protopterus annectens (Protopteridae)
African pike Hepsetus odoe (Hepsetidae)
African pike-characin, tubenose poacher, fin eater Species in the subfamily Ichthyborinae
American gar, armoured gar, spotted gar, alligator gars Atractosteus spp. and Lepisosteus spp. (Lepisosteidae)
Angler, frogmouth and squarehead catfishes Chaca chaca (Chacidae)
Banded jewelfish Hemichromis fasciatus (Cichlidae)
Banded or spotted sunfish Entire family Centrachidae
Bighead carp Aristichthys nobilis (Cyprinidae)
Bottlenose, cornish jack Mormyrops anguilloides (Mormyridae)
Bowfin Amia calva (Amiidae)
Brook stickleback Culaea inconstans (Gasterosteidae)
Catla Catla catla (Cyprinidae)
Chameleon goby, striped goby Tridentiger trigonocephalus (Gobiidae)
Chinese swordfish Psephurus gladius (Polyodontidae)
Copper mahseer Neolissochilus hexagonolepis (Cyprinidae)
Electric catfish Malapterurus spp. (Malapteruridae)
European catfish, wels catfish Silurus spp. (Siluridae)
Flatnose catfish, dwarf giraffe catfish Anaspidoglanis macrostoma (Bagridae)
Forktail lates Lates microlepis (Centropomidae)
Fourspine stickleback Apeltes quadracus (Gasterosteidae)
Freshwater minnow Zacco platypus (Cyprinidae)
Giant barb Catlocarpio siamensis (Cyprinidae)
Giant cichlid, yellow belly cichlid Boulengerochromis microlepis (Cichlidae)
Marble goby Oxyeleotris marmorata (eleotridae)
Mississippi paddlefish Polyodon spathula (Polyodontidae)
Mrigal Cirrhinus cirrhosus (Cyprinidae)
Ninespine stickleback Pungitius pungitius (Gasterosteidae)
Orange fin labeo, rohu Labeo calbasu and L. rohita (Cyprinidae)
Pike characin Acestrorhynchus microlepis (Acestrorhynchidae)
Pike minnow, pike killifish Belonesox belizanus (Poeciliidae)
Pikes Esox spp. (Esocidae)
Pink, slender, greenwoods, mortimers, cunean and green happy Sargochromis spp. (Cichlidae)
Purpleface largemouth Serranochromis spp. (Cichlidae)
Pygmy sunfish Elassoma spp. (Elassomatidae)
Red Devil Amphilophus labiatus (Cichlidae)
Red swamp crayfish Procambarus clarkii (Cambaridae)
Ripsaw catfish, black doras, black shielded catfish Oxydoras spp. (Doradidae)
River carp, deccan, high backed, jungha, putitor, Thai mahseer Tor spp. (Cyprinidae)
Shiners Notropis spp. (Cyprinidae)
Silver carp Hypophthalmichthys molitrix (Cyprinidae)
Snooks Centropomus spp. (Centropomidae)
Southern redbelly dace Phoxinus erythrogaster (Cyprinidae)
Stinging catfish Heteropneustes fossilis (Heteropneustidae)
Ubangi shovelnose catfish Bagrus ubangensis (Bagridae)
Valencia toothcarp Valencia hispanica (Valenciidae)
Yellowfin goby Acanthogobius flavimanus (Gobiidae)
mmm ...I find it very odd that your cut and paste list shows Red Devil Amphilophus labiatus (Cichlidae) yet it is not shown on the list on their actual web site???
Click Link ...Species table: additions to noxious fish list
Click Link ...Species table: additions to noxious fish list
No wonder Dorthy wanted to get the F outta Oz... I would too.. and I thought the USA sucked for not letting us keep Channa... and this is why HR669 in the US shoudln't be allowed a foothold.. I always knew Australia was nutterz. O.O dudes.. I dunno what to say other 'n wow.. that blows chunks.
some people obvisouly have no sence of geography in this thread and as stated this has been cut pasted to the list, the real list does not sate RDS AT ALL and as stated we in a Australia (if you havent heard or do not no of you must not be very educated) have a strict import rules and regluations so importing of most/all cichlids is illegal but we are allowed to own any S/A & C/A cichlid if you can find them althought quality is not as good as the states because not fress blood lines have been established with no imports for at least 20years , As for ciclhlids living in Australia its not posssible in the wild in the southern zones (other han power plant pounds) as it is to cold in the winter , in the north however they temp would be fine all year round but i doubt any would survie due the the lare ustrailan predators that live in these areas in large numbers such as Barramundi, bass, Crocodiles (fress and esturine) even large cat fish etc- Status
