Red tail blue Convicts!
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fishfarm;1889540; said:
What do you mean Ken? You don't cross F0's of the same species from different rivers and lakes?
I guess I would either if I knew for sure exactly where they came from.
And I'm not in to hybrids whatsoever. I'm anti-hybrid in a lot of cases.
I love hybrids but I am also responsible about them and passing a hybrid off as pure or a color morph is just wrong. Situations like this only hurt the hobby and nobody wins.
Same here, as long as they are labeled as hybrids I'm fine with it. It's the people who pass them off as non hybrids that ruin it for everyone.danz;1890773; said:
I think it's great to see the pure fish and think I would do the same if I had any I knew for sure were F0 or even F1 of any kind, try to keep each species I had separate even down to the region they are from as to not contaminate the blood lines.
danz;1890773; said:
I used to think I would like having some hybrids but once I got them I felt differently. There was no satisfaction in raising them and what would I ever breed them with? To me hybrids are feeders but to each his own. Like you said as long as people are responsible about it...
I just popped in here and you guys are cracking me up. As Balton has said already, hybrids seem kinda lame to me too.
The only reason I'd keep Cons is to raise the fry and feed my GT and Dempsey
The HRP's are cool looking fish though. Looks like the Dr's taking good care of them
The only reason I'd keep Cons is to raise the fry and feed my GT and Dempsey
The HRP's are cool looking fish though. Looks like the Dr's taking good care of them
balton777;1890732; said:
I have fish that are from different tributeries of the same river system I keep separate. That's just the way it should be. If you look at Soto's recent revision of Archocentrus, A. nigrofasiatus (convicts) were broken down into 4 species, most certainly all the domestic convicts are a combination of crosses of these 4 species, plus some other Cryptoheros over time. I've never seen a wild nigrofasiatus over 3". but there are 6-7" domestic convicts in the hobby. C Spilurus has been divided into two species, The brown northern group is now a new species from the golden southern group which is C. spilurus. C cutteri was raise to species status (and should have been a long time ago) and had been considered a sub species of C. spilurus. Jack Dempseys were broken into 3 species, ect, ect. And he did not even take into account where the Honduran Red Point fits into all this. I know I have 4-5 species of Cryptoheros I collected in Honduras that are new or different undiscribed species or at least subspecies. These should be kept pure.
I don't mind what people do to their fish, what they cross them with as long as they are not put on the market as pure fish. Look at all the I.D. thread that appear here and on other forums, Many are hybrid fish traded into pet shops an sold as something else. It's shame, keep them pure. Ken
fishfarm;1895997; said:
I agree about keeping types pure. Strengthening a fishes natural traits by line breeding is cool with me also. My strains are pretty pure and it is new color morphs that I am working on. Respectocons are pure red point convicts, just another style or color morph.
I thought we already established that they were hybrids. Just because you hybridize fish and then "line breed" them, it doesn't make them pure.
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