Red texas fading red?

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I'm confused by some of what I have been reading. I just recently started breeding(bp x carpintis) to make rt. I have 3 batches currently. 1- blood parrot x carpintis & 2 blood parrot x male unfaded rt. same blood parrot mom in all projects. This being said, my first question is if f-1 are able to fade?
My parrot is extremely red most of the time, not orange. Am I correct to think it may have red fry?
My oldest/first batch of fry are carpxbp & I have about 5 that look to have a red base or red gill plates. I'm hoping they will show a deep red as they grow. They are about 2 1/2 months, I will post pics if I can get good ones
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FHlov said:
no worries crush, no offense taken. I was just trying to clarify that the bright red is what separates SRTs from RTs. I didn't want to just say flat out that "No" you can't get a red colored Texas from a BP x ??, but I would be very surprised if you could. Everyone that I've seen breed RT's by using a BP are always orange variants or unfaded. I don't think that a fish's natural color can "mix" to produce a color. I believe that the fish inherits either or, but that's not to say that the fish can't possess both variations. Since the regular texas has no red and the bp doesn't either, I just don't see red as a possible outcome. I could be wrong, but who knows.
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Thanks for your input Jt... I would like to see your 2 creations. Right on FHlov... Were on the same page(for the most part lol). What you have said about the mixing of the genes is not true though. They actually can mix to create a new color. The animal guys second fish is(well I'm 99% sure lol) from a bp cross. They can present red but they won't be a deep, dark, fully covered red. The only catch to the mixing part is when they fade there is not much mixing of color(from first generation). But when they don't fade you can get all types of different colors... Blue, green, orange, and red. Take the first pic you posted for example, one could never get that rich of a red from a first generation bp cross. That's another reason I would like to know more about red mammons. Well the thread is not dead yet lol. I will post some of our creations soon to show some differences of colors created from bp/tex.
 
Butthorn said:
I'm confused by some of what I have been reading. I just recently started breeding(bp x carpintis) to make rt. I have 3 batches currently. 1- blood parrot x carpintis & 2 blood parrot x male unfaded rt. same blood parrot mom in all projects. This being said, my first question is if f-1 are able to fade?
My parrot is extremely red most of the time, not orange. Am I correct to think it may have red fry?
My oldest/first batch of fry are carpxbp & I have about 5 that look to have a red base or red gill plates. I'm hoping they will show a deep red as they grow. They are about 2 1/2 months, I will post pics if I can get good ones
ThNks


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Thanks for your input. To answer your first question, yes the first generation can and will have faders. As far as red bp's... I went to my lfs and they had some of the most red bp's I have ever seen so I bought 3 of them. Well with a little research I seen that bp's that have a purple tint to them are dyed. So mine are dyed but I still plan on breeding them. Now your rt and bp have a much greater chance of producing red simply because the rt came from mixed genes. But the main point I wanted to make was that we have just found out that bp's come from a female midas and a male synspillum... Where would the red come from there? The origin of them produce yellow and orange... The red has to get mixed in. That was my analogy... But if your bp is somehow naturally red, I could see your creation being red. That's what this thread is for... Let's see some pics of the bp and what she has produced!
 
These are the best pics I could get of them...they never stop moving!!


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Hey Butthorn... I said all that and forgot to say the most important part. You can and will find some red fish, but to find one that will "fade red" is another story... IMO. This thread is to prove that thought wrong.
 
JteSchertz said:
These are the best pics I could get of them...they never stop moving!!


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Thanks for posting even though I can't see them right. My phone doesn't show all pics but I will check them out later. Little reminder for taking pictures next time... Turn your filters, bubblers, and power heads off and it will calm your fish down for better picture taking.
 
I had seen "super red" parrots & bought a few. They just ended up orange in a few months. Sucks, won't fall for that again. I have had this parrot for a few years. She is not dyed. She goes from pale pink to deep red. This pic is her & rt. I'll try and get better shot of her red.


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crush329 said:
Hey Butthorn... I said all that and forgot to say the most important part. You can and will find some red fish, but to find one that will "fade red" is another story... IMO. This thread is to prove that thought wrong.
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Yeah, I got ya
Think I'm gonna retire my parrot now anyway. I'll let you know how my fry develop( if any fade to red)
And then it's time to line breed like a mofo & get my mp!


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hrm, so then it could be possible to possess some sort of red gene. Totally forgot what is bred to make bps in the first place. Vieja Syn (redhead cichlid) duh!
 
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