Replace bio wheels with pot scrubbies??

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Chaitika;2839516; said:
The real beneift to bio-wheels is the fact that the nitrifying bacteria are exposed to air, thus maximizing their efficency. Very similar to a wet/dry filter.

Remove it and replace with pot scrubbies and you may have more surface area for the bacteria, but they will be submerged bacteria, and not as efficient as bacteria exposed to air. quote]

FINALLY! That's 100% correct. Wet/dry filtration is NOT about surface area. It's about exposure to oxygen.

Replace the bio-wheel and your results will worsen. PLUS, if the filter is eliminating ammonia and nitrite now, why would you feel the need to mess with it?
 
I don't like biowheels, simply because of the noise. Even with the tank filled up it makes too much noise. Therefore I don't use one, but the only biowheel filter I have is a penguin 200 on a 29, and theres a whisper 60 as well. On my AC110 I used a sheet of filter floss to keep the waterfall thing from making noise.

cchhcc;2839769; said:
Chaitika;2839516; said:
The real beneift to bio-wheels is the fact that the nitrifying bacteria are exposed to air, thus maximizing their efficency. Very similar to a wet/dry filter.

Remove it and replace with pot scrubbies and you may have more surface area for the bacteria, but they will be submerged bacteria, and not as efficient as bacteria exposed to air. quote]

FINALLY! That's 100% correct. Wet/dry filtration is NOT about surface area. It's about exposure to oxygen.

Replace the bio-wheel and your results will worsen. PLUS, if the filter is eliminating ammonia and nitrite now, why would you feel the need to mess with it?

do the scrubbies look submerged to you?
 
i find the water fall effect relaxing
 
FSM;2839879; said:
I don't like biowheels, simply because of the noise. Even with the tank filled up it makes too much noise. Therefore I don't use one, but the only biowheel filter I have is a penguin 200 on a 29, and theres a whisper 60 as well. On my AC110 I used a sheet of filter floss to keep the waterfall thing from making noise.

cchhcc;2839769; said:
do the scrubbies look submerged to you?

The tops don't look submerged but do the tops ever get wet?

I'm not knocking the change over, I'm simply asking a question as to whether modding the filter increases the effectiveness. If the wheel stops turning due to wear, then modding it might be a better option than replacing the wheel.
 
FSM, they don't look like they are alternating between wet and dry for sure!

They might work in a trickle tower, but I really don't think that's an effective modification on the Emp.
 
Chaitika;2839933; said:
FSM;2839879; said:
I don't like biowheels, simply because of the noise. Even with the tank filled up it makes too much noise. Therefore I don't use one, but the only biowheel filter I have is a penguin 200 on a 29, and theres a whisper 60 as well. On my AC110 I used a sheet of filter floss to keep the waterfall thing from making noise.



The tops don't look submerged but do the tops ever get wet?

I'm not knocking the change over, I'm simply asking a question as to whether modding the filter increases the effectiveness. If the wheel stops turning due to wear, then modding it might be a better option than replacing the wheel.

No, they are not submerged. You can adjust the spray bar to hit the tops of the scrubbies.
 
cchhcc;2840072; said:
FSM, they don't look like they are alternating between wet and dry for sure!

They might work in a trickle tower, but I really don't think that's an effective modification on the Emp.

By the way it looks, they would work "exactly" like they to in a trickle tower. Only the water is moving on an angle rather than straight down. As stated before though, with only 4 scrubbies it would only be enough for roughly a 20 gl. or so.
 
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