csx4236;2449482; said:Anders just for your info many many other breeders have lost high % of there rays including Frank & Nico it was discussed at the symposium.
Do to fine sand or unknown factors?
csx4236;2449482; said:Anders just for your info many many other breeders have lost high % of there rays including Frank & Nico it was discussed at the symposium.
csx4236;2449525; said:

amazongirl;2449795; said:Wow- what a thread!
I think everyone is generalizing way too much here. The word sand refers to the size of the particles. It has nothing to do with what the sand is composed of, or it's angularity (or how sharp it is). In my opinion, if sand is at times harmful it is more related to the angular edges of the sand. If you look at the microscope pictures, you can see particles that are rounded and smooth and some that are pretty sharp looking.
Different minerals have different hardness. Geologists have a scale to measure hardness- called the Mohs scale of hardness where the hardest mineral (diamond) is a 10, the softess is a 1. Some, like quartz (which is also silica or what glass is made of) has a pretty high hardness. Because of that, it is more resistant to weathering and will tend to retain those sharper angles more than a softer mineral. Talc is one of the minerals with the lowest hardness. If you've ever rubbed talc between you're fingers you know it is very soft.
If sand is causing a problem, it is more likely (in my opinion) to be due to the particle shape than it's size.
I knew that geology degree would be useful eventually!
andersp90;2449655; said:Quartz and silica is the same thing.
"The most common constituent of sand, in inland continental settings and non-tropical coastal settings, is silica (silicon dioxide, or SiO2), usually in the form of quartz, which, because of its chemical inertness and considerable hardness, is resistant to weathering."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sand
There is Quartz and silica in all aquarium sand. And in the amzon itself.![]()
csx4236;2449813; said:all quartz is silica, but not all silica is quartz....it is part of a large group of minerals that come under the heading of silicates
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicate_minerals
amazongirl;2449795; said:Wow- what a thread!
I think everyone is generalizing way too much here. The word sand refers to the size of the particles. It has nothing to do with what the sand is composed of, or it's angularity (or how sharp it is). In my opinion, if sand is at times harmful it is more related to the angular edges of the sand. If you look at the microscope pictures, you can see particles that are rounded and smooth and some that are pretty sharp looking.
Different minerals have different hardness. Geologists have a scale to measure hardness- called the Mohs scale of hardness where the hardest mineral (diamond) is a 10, the softess is a 1. Some, like quartz (which is also silica or what glass is made of) has a pretty high hardness. Because of that, it is more resistant to weathering and will tend to retain those sharper angles more than a softer mineral. Talc is one of the minerals with the lowest hardness. If you've ever rubbed talc between you're fingers you know it is very soft.
If sand is causing a problem, it is more likely (in my opinion) to be due to the particle shape than it's size.
I knew that geology degree would be useful eventually!
andersp90;2450000; said:Do you have some information about the sand types found in the Amazon river system?