25cm was my suggestion for wild caught... not allowed to remove smaller from the wild. At lfs they could range between 5cm and 40cm. They usually are on the smaller end of the scale though.
well i could give converting some big ones a try since they are not prdators they shoulld be fine with the smaler barra and jar (jar 16cm barra 9-10cm)
yea but im allways looking to expand some how and there not gooing to be ready for a while yet probely at the 18inch mark i will feel safe then so no animal will get them