Schector Guitar opinions

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Sturgeon;1216513; said:
umm... 6 strings Vs. 4. Standard tuning. 6 strings will always put more strain on the neck than 4. If you have a 6 string guitar with a tremolo and you break a string, you go out of tuning.... proof that less strings puts less stress on the neck.
research what Flea plays in the RHCP. its a 4 string.
research what less claypool plays.
if there was a clear advantage of having more than 4 strings on a bass, I think more ppl would play them. 5 strings are good. 6 is overboard, adds weight, makes the neck thicker and fatter, then you gotta buy special string packs at a higher cost.
I'm sorry, Do get it if you like it, but I'm just not sold on the idea that 6 st bass is necessary.


Wasn't what i ment, I wanted to learn some SlipKnoT songs but I had to tune the A string to B. Well, My teacher said it would put to much strain on the neck, and it would wreck the string, So i could do it on other strings.
 
Sturgeon;1216513; said:
umm... 6 strings Vs. 4. Standard tuning. 6 strings will always put more strain on the neck than 4. If you have a 6 string guitar with a tremolo and you break a string, you go out of tuning.... proof that less strings puts less stress on the neck.
research what Flea plays in the RHCP. its a 4 string.
research what less claypool plays.
if there was a clear advantage of having more than 4 strings on a bass, I think more ppl would play them. 5 strings are good. 6 is overboard, adds weight, makes the neck thicker and fatter, then you gotta buy special string packs at a higher cost.
I'm sorry, Do get it if you like it, but I'm just not sold on the idea that 6 st bass is necessary.

Yeah... Research what Les Claypool plays. About half the time he plays his fretless 6 string rainbow bass... "Jerry was a racecar driver" one of his biggest hits, was recorded with this bass.

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He also plays a fretted 6 string. (I swear, this pose was just for you)

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He has a piccolo bass (In hindsight... really a 4 string guitar, its a bass tuned one octave up) The person in the photo is not Claypool, but a worker of Carl Thompson modeling the bass.

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That makes half of what you said nearly invalid, as one of your prime examples and a legend in the bass world who plays basses with very different tunings, one of which is actually just a 4 string guitar.


The timbre of the C string is very valuable for soft songs, its great for chording and voicing as well. Just because you play bass doesn't mean you have to pluck one note at a time... Plenty of bassists like to sweep arpeggio's and play chords. This can be done on a 4 string as well, but C string gives more voicing options, its also nice for two hand tapping as well, again can also be done on a 4 string.

Maybe if you tried one you would like it. Personally I play 6 and 7 string basses.



Rakie ~ Music Major.
 
When they first came back with the mass produced guitars, I didn't like Schecter too much. They felt cheap and the necks were very thick and uncomfortable, however, in the recent few of years, the quality went up exponentially. I currently play 7-string guitars myself and was an Ibanez addict since back in the late 80's. Lately, I find myself playing my Schecter 7's more than I play with the Ibanez 7's I've had for years. The ones I have are a little more on the higher end (Hellraiser C-7 and Jeff Loomis models), but I've tried out the lower end models and they play, look and feel great.
 
Finally Rakie and Deathcurl have showed YESSSS! Now we can talk specs and music to the fullest extent. Yes Rakie makes excellent points as he just magnafied what I said perviously good job Rakie. Me personally I play 6 string guitars and 6 string basses. I will play 7 stringed guitars though is I want to do some MAJOR sweep arpeggio's along with sweep tapping. They just give you a more full scale and you can do so much with more strings. But yes schecter started off to a bad start but soon got on their feet and have made some excellent guitars. Much rather have an EMG active Les Paul with maple carve top but who has 6500 to spend lol.
 
The higher end schecters have EMG's as stock pickups. I prefer to leave my Les Paul's bone stock for value purposes in the long run. I have 3 Les Paul Customs that I absolutely love, but I also like extended range guitars and Schecters fit the bill. Scale positions and arpeggio options are so much easier with that added string. Three octave arpeggios can be done in one position whereas it would have to be with two on a 6-string. Three octave scales can be done with minor position shifts.

I currently have a 5-string bass as well. Never ventured to w 6-string, but I feel that a lot depends on the type of music that you play when it comes to gear. Many jazz fusion players use 6 and even 7 string basses for the tonal range. On the more rock/metal side if you look at John Myung of Dream Theater, he uses every nook and cranny of that 6-string bass he plays. Some people want a higher and lower range, especially if you have to fill out a certain amount of the "background" musically.

Also, different choices in string gauges, scale length and tuning can make up for some of the tension issues on the guitar/bass. There are a ton of variables to determining comfortability/playability.
 
sick stuff. My boy rob builds guitars and mandolins. He has a wood planer and makes all his own lumber. He has a woodstove with a coil around the chimney, which he passes water through and uses it to steam the wood. he makes the neck, bonds the fretboard onto it, slits it for frets... everything. master craftsman. he has already built about 5 mandolins, a banjo, a guitar and has donated a few to charity and fundraisers. he has obviously kept his best for himself, he outfitted it with a pickup and it plays like a dream.
Wish I had some pics to show you what kinda custom work he does.
 
Sturgeon;1216513; said:
If you have a 6 string guitar with a tremolo and you break a string, you go out of tuning.... proof that less strings puts less stress on the neck.


6 is overboard, adds weight, makes the neck thicker and fatter, then you gotta buy special string packs at a higher cost.




Stress on the neck: The truss rod(s) in the neck counter balance the tension of the strings, thats why they're there.


6 strings do add weight, but the neck only gets thicker and fatter if you're buying a crappy 6 string... Its hard to engineer a good, cheap 6 string bass. With a 4" wide strap there will be no neck dive, no matter how how heavy the neck is. Also on strings.. 6 String sets ARE more expensive, but not by much, unless you buy cheapie strings. 4 String sets put me back $40, 6 string sets $50.
 
Sturgeon;1216513; said:
umm... 6 strings Vs. 4. Standard tuning. 6 strings will always put more strain on the neck than 4. If you have a 6 string guitar with a tremolo and you break a string, you go out of tuning.... proof that less strings puts less stress on the neck.
research what Flea plays in the RHCP. its a 4 string.
research what less claypool plays.
if there was a clear advantage of having more than 4 strings on a bass, I think more ppl would play them. 5 strings are good. 6 is overboard, adds weight, makes the neck thicker and fatter, then you gotta buy special string packs at a higher cost.
I'm sorry, Do get it if you like it, but I'm just not sold on the idea that 6 st bass is necessary.

ive seen flea with a 5 once or twice. have u seen those basses with like 20 strings and a foot wide fretboard. wtf. i am 4 strings right now, but i want to try shorts scale necks and 5 strings when i got the cash
 
mudskipper;1218630; said:
ive seen flea with a 5 once or twice. have u seen those basses with like 20 strings and a foot wide fretboard. wtf. i am 4 strings right now, but i want to try shorts scale necks and 5 strings when i got the cash

You mean a Chapman Stick? if so, that's like a bass and a guitar rolled into one .
 
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