scobina or hystrix breeder any were?

[sam buckle]

sp. yepezi or sp peru depending on who you talk to. are fairly large rays
(20" plus) but i would not quote there eventual size as not much is known. someone on here had a lovely yepezi that he grew on from fairly small but i cannot remember who it was.
whatever ray you go for i would stick at just a pair in the six foot.
i had three motoros in my 5 foot with 2 fluval fx5s and an internal with a polyfilter. and i was doing daily 30% water changes.
2 rays will produce less waste than three making your life easier and also allowing room for other fish if you wanted. Retics are great rays once you get them eating and wean them off bloodworm when they are big enough. I know they are just a "brown ray" but if you get one with a full tail they are stunning. i personaly dont think they are harder to keep than any other ray. it is just they are often in a lot worse state when they come into the country due to how small they are. and you could keep a pair in your size tank for life.
hope that helps

 

[njackson]

sp. yepezi or sp peru depending on who you talk to. are fairly large rays
(20" plus) but i would not quote there eventual size as not much is known. someone on here had a lovely yepezi that he grew on from fairly small but i cannot remember who it was.
whatever ray you go for i would stick at just a pair in the six foot.
i had three motoros in my 5 foot with 2 fluval fx5s and an internal with a polyfilter. and i was doing daily 30% water changes.
2 rays will produce less waste than three making your life easier and also allowing room for other fish if you wanted. Retics are great rays once you get them eating and wean them off bloodworm when they are big enough. I know they are just a "brown ray" but if you get one with a full tail they are stunning. i personaly dont think they are harder to keep than any other ray. it is just they are often in a lot worse state when they come into the country due to how small they are. and you could keep a pair in your size tank for life.
hope that helps

thanks, i been reading that they grow small then motoros,about 50cm disc.
i could go bigger ,but i don't know if i can get it upstairs ,so i might have to build a plywood tank.

 

[Bogwoodbruce]

Why not a nice pair of marble motoros? they wont break the bank, are stunning fish and dont get as big as regular motoros, our old male at work which got 3 females pregnant was only around 14-15" disc and a few years old.

Marble motoro are my fave rays

 

[njackson]

Why not a nice pair of marble motoros? they wont break the bank, are stunning fish and dont get as big as regular motoros, our old male at work which got 3 females pregnant was only around 14-15" disc and a few years old.

Marble motoro are my fave rays

i just been thinking about getting marble motoros instead of hystrix , but i don't know how long can i keep one male and one female in a 6x3x2ft tank. one of my fav rays too .thanks

 

[T1KARMANN]

you lot are making me

you are talking about a 50cm ray like its small

do you know how big even a 40cm ray is to give you some idea go out side and look at your dads car wheel thats the size of a adult motoro WITH THE TYRE

i also read that someone has one motoro that grew fast and one that didn't (sorry forgot your user name) well what i have found is you will always have 1 female that grows fast and bigger when you have 2 females in a tank even if they eat the same amount of food

you are also talking about keeping rays for live that just doesn't happen in the real world people buy and sell all the time i don't think you will buy a pair of motoro and keep them for 10 years + it does happen but not very often

if i was you i would be spending most of my time in the set up section of this forum as that the 1st step you need to do 1st before planing all the high end fish

 

[Bogwoodbruce]

you lot are making me

you are talking about a 50cm ray like its small

do you know how big even a 40cm ray is to give you some idea go out side and look at your dads car wheel thats the size of a adult motoro WITH THE TYRE

i also read that someone has one motoro that grew fast and one that didn't (sorry forgot your user name) well what i have found is you will always have 1 female that grows fast and bigger when you have 2 females in a tank even if they eat the same amount of food

you are also talking about keeping rays for live that just doesn't happen in the real world people buy and sell all the time i don't think you will buy a pair of motoro and keep them for 10 years + it does happen but not very often

if i was you i would be spending most of my time in the set up section of this forum as that the 1st step you need to do 1st before planing all the high end fish

i found the same with my 2 female motoros, the both ate just as well, and there was a size difference in the tank but when i sold them and took them out and once they were in a box the size different was quite larger around 2.5" on the disc size and the larger one didnt eat for the first 2 wks of me keeping her either. weird.

 

[njackson]

you lot are making me

you are talking about a 50cm ray like its small

do you know how big even a 40cm ray is to give you some idea go out side and look at your dads car wheel thats the size of a adult motoro WITH THE TYRE

i also read that someone has one motoro that grew fast and one that didn't (sorry forgot your user name) well what i have found is you will always have 1 female that grows fast and bigger when you have 2 females in a tank even if they eat the same amount of food

you are also talking about keeping rays for live that just doesn't happen in the real world people buy and sell all the time i don't think you will buy a pair of motoro and keep them for 10 years + it does happen but not very often

if i was you i would be spending most of my time in the set up section of this forum as that the 1st step you need to do 1st before planing all the high end fish

i was just saying that they grow smaller then motoros, i have been on mfk for 2 years, i fisnish college now and i should get a job and i always want some stingray and big catfish, so i though i finally can get a big tank in my bedroom then after 2 to 3 years i should have some money to move out my parents house then i can get bigger tank and by the way my dad does not have a car ,but i work on cars.

 

[AngusJB]

For a captive bred Hystrix you are looking at around £250 for a 5-62 inch disc. Not cheap lol

 

[Bogwoodbruce]

i was just saying that they grow smaller then motoros, i have been on mfk for 2 years, i fisnish college now and i should get a job and i always want some stingray and big catfish, so i though i finally can get a big tank in my bedroom then after 2 to 3 years i should have some money to move out my parents house then i can get bigger tank and by the way my dad does not have a car ,but i work on cars.

Is your bedroom on a second floor? as the weight in a tank of that size could be a serious problem!

 

[njackson]

Is your bedroom on a second floor? as the weight in a tank of that size could be a serious problem!

yep i have reaserch this iam going to use scafoldin props for the weight, lucky for me were i want my tank to go 2ft of the josit go outside so i can put props there.