Im not one to take shortcuts looks like i gotta be real patient. I read somewhere else you have to change 90% of the water before adding fish ? Thanks again for your input i would have used the giant danio method againzennzzo;2543747; said:The only product of that kind that I have used with any success is SeaChem's "STABILITY", still, I'd do the fishless cycling...
First off, you need to raise the temp to the mid 80's
Add five (5) drops of pure ammonia, per ten (10) gallons of water.
Do this daily, until the NitrItes are measurable...
Once you get a NitrIte reading, you decrease the daily ammonia drops to three (3) drops per ten (10) gallons of water.
Continue this daily until you get a
Zero (0) Ammonia and a Zero (0) NitrIte reading.
At this time measure for NitrAte, you should have a 20-40ppm reading.
Now, do a 25-30% water change, discontinue the Ammonia drops, adjust the temperature and Add fish...
No dead sacrificial animals, and you are ready for a fairly healthy amount of fish...
also at which point would I add the small aquatech 5/15 bio media cartridge from my moms established 15 gallon
pill. You are obviously offended by my advice because it was better than yours. I would know since I use it myself which you obviously haven't. Otherwise, you'd be using it yourself as well. You can call it BS or whatever you want but you don't have much to say since you've never used the product or a similar product before. I'd recommend you read up on it first before accusing me of giving bad advice. 
