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drgnfly829;805686; said:
I guess what I consider injustice is the fact that those Duke players had their lives ruined by a stripper who cried rape and lied
compared to a stupid DJ who makes (made) his living by cracking jokes for God's sake
Ok those Kids might have started out white with silver spoons and all that crap,
But isn't the whole debate as to the the fact that the color of your skin should not influence how you're treated by society?

I mean, there's no chance the Duke thing was allowed to go so far due to (shudder) jealosy by any chance? Ok rich spoiled frat boys tend to be jerks
Whoop de F******g doo

I am soo sick of the fact that small vocal groups get all the concessions because of fear of negative media attention on the part of politicians

-`personally I don't care if you're black white brown or green with orange polka-dots,
you want equal treatment it means just that equal treatment
not ok but
and then ideals aside, who would have contributed more in terms of taxible wages ( just extrapolating not making an assumption) the hooker or the ivy league kids?


Ok next reason to lock down the border anyone heard of multi-drug resistant tb?
Do you think Illegal immigrants are going to comply with treatment and quarantine??
and if they did who pays for that very treatment?

Yes yes european colonialist imperialists basically ruined the world
wiped out cultures etc I am sooo sorry.
I wasn't there .
and if you want to hold me responsible for something my very distant ancestors may have done, (actually I think most of my ancestors came over early 1900's but oh well)

then....

I'm wiccan the Spanish inquisition burned me at the stake in a past life
OK who do I go to for an apology and more imporatntly some money to help me get over my past life trauma?

Oh and anyone notice how the American Indians, who were also horribly wronged are starting to work within the culture LEGALLY to become more prosperous
Like "ok you gave us smallpox and alcohol, we give you tobacco, and cater to your vice "gambling"
hey man fair's fair

The African americans are working legaly with in this country. ever heard of rap music? if you ask me they are much better off since they have been in this country.

They want to talk about segregation in the 60's well maybe they should pick up a newspaper and read about whats going on in most African countries.
 
me_wee_todded;806009; said:
The African americans are working legaly with in this country. ever heard of rap music? if you ask me they are much better off since they have been in this country.

They want to talk about segregation in the 60's well maybe they should pick up a newspaper and read about whats going on in most African countries.


Saying something like that only exposes your prejudice. You may not be racist as you've claimed that you are not already, but that was a statement based on stereotypes that was worded condescendingly.


Also, saying that people who aren't white think whites are the devil just because of the slavery here in America is oversimplifying the situation in a manner that allows you to patronize their beliefs. Do you have any real idea of what happened in historical events like the potato famine? That was the ruling white power in England letting hundreds of thousands of white Irish people starve to death while the food that wasn't failing to be produced was being shipped out of the country to Britain.


Hate knows no color.


People should look at racism as they look at a box of crayons. There's a lot of us and many of us are different colors and variations of those colors. One may say that you should only use yellow if you were to draw a banana but the fact is that it's your drawing and you can use any color you want. If I were to draw a banana with a green crayon it would still a banana and a fruit of my labor (pun intended). You wouldn't say that's not a banana, that's green therefore it's not what a banana should look like. And well, you wouldn't say only black people can be rappers (which I know you did not) but the way you bring about your case, you're implying such.



I am aware of such dangers as the TB that can't be treated but I'm also aware you can die from drinking too much water. Aspirin is legal, you could take 13 of them mothaf*ckas and it would be your LAST headache. Are you really that paranoid that this new strain of TB will turn into some form of epidimic similar to the black plague? Do you really feel that strongly that we should just build a fence that's 15ft. high all across the border between us and Mexico? Do you believe that would be accomplished without the help of any illegal immigrants in this country?


I'm sorry but I find a huge personal misunderstanding with the pathology of thinking that we can say things like 'they're criminals just for walking across a line' when you sit there taking the freedoms you have for granted. Yes, I will say you take them for granted because it's clearly you have when you find a personal problem with another human being crossing a line that only exists on a map in order to provide not a decent living but A LIVING for their family.


Sorry to all the people against illegal immigration but the truth is practically none of them stay here longer than a few years before returning to Mexico. Get over yourselves, we already pay taxes to go to complete B.S. things.



MY LAST QUESTION TO THOSE WHO OPPOSE ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION:

Would you feel better about yourself knowing that your tax dollars went to put food on the table for a family of illegal immigrants who had been forced to flee their home country due to a poor economy and hellacious gang violence OR would you rather it go to the cost of paying for a fraction of a bomb?
 
TicaL;806679; said:
Sorry to all the people against illegal immigration but the truth is practically none of them stay here longer than a few years before returning to Mexico. Get over yourselves, we already pay taxes to go to complete B.S. things.



MY LAST QUESTION TO THOSE WHO OPPOSE ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION:

Would you feel better about yourself knowing that your tax dollars went to put food on the table for a family of illegal immigrants who had been forced to flee their home country due to a poor economy and hellacious gang violence OR would you rather it go to the cost of paying for a fraction of a bomb?

Dude,

Seriously, you need to wear a diaper on your face for talking so much bullsh*t.

Illegal immigrants only stay here a few years?? Are you HIGH??? WHY do you think GENERATIONS of cubans are protesting illegal immigration reform in Miami? Why do you think spanish are protesting in cities like CHICAGO??

I'll tell you why. Because they BREED like f*ckin' rabbits over here and then their offspring expect that we should just keep taking care of them.

YOU are the only one, I can honestly say, who pisses me off in this discussion because you are completely CLUELESS as to what is REALLY going on but trying to speak like you have some intelligence.

With every post you make you show how nieve and senseless some people are in this country about the situation.


And the immigrants were "Forced" to leave their country??? Why do you think their countries are so F*CKING POOR to begin with? Because most of them want something for nothing. They don't want to work to build the economy in THEIR OWN country so they scamper across the desert like rats or build boats out of cars to get here ILLEGALLY.

There are a few hard-working ILLEGALS. I'll give you that. But what about all of the other ones sitting in cells, forming gangs, etc...

Maybe YOU should move to f*ckin' Mexico or Cuba or Puerto Rico seeing as how you blindly defend them all as if they haven't changed OUR country a bit.

To answer your ONLY question in your post (The rest were statements) If they don't get the hell out of this country, I'll pay for the bomb.
 
in Scotland we welcome immigrants.

hell if i could swap every 12 year old ho with 5 kids with no job with a hard working immigrant i would.

most of what i know about fish was taught to me by a polish worker.

but if you immigrate to a country .

Poland to Scotland


your Scottish first Polish second .:popcorn:
 
Saying something like that only exposes your prejudice. You may not be racist as you've claimed that you are not already, but that was a statement based on stereotypes that was worded condescendingly.

Hip hop is both a music genre and a cultural movement developed in urban communities starting in the 1970s, predominantly by African Americans and Latinos.

Also, saying that people who aren't white think whites are the devil just because of the slavery here in America is oversimplifying the situation in a manner that allows you to patronize their beliefs. Do you have any real idea of what happened in historical events like the potato famine? That was the ruling white power in England letting hundreds of thousands of white Irish people starve to death while the food that wasn't failing to be produced was being shipped out of the country to Britain.

The Potato famine happened no question about it.
It and many other reasons is why Ireland hates the UK. Thats why there are groups like the IRA. I dont have a problem with that, this is not a Racial issue. This is about nationalism.
But since you think its about race.
Why dont you bring up the rampant African on African crime: bloods and crips. East coast rappers, West coast rappers. Hutus and Tutsies in Rawanda.

Hate knows no color.

I dont think Hate is the real issue here. The issue is people breaking the law. through ou the entire thread.
Sure i hate illegal immigrants. but thats about ther extent of my hatred. except maybe for Iran and N. Korea and pretty much any other "unfriendly" country.

People should look at racism as they look at a box of crayons. There's a lot of us and many of us are different colors and variations of those colors. One may say that you should only use yellow if you were to draw a banana but the fact is that it's your drawing and you can use any color you want. If I were to draw a banana with a green crayon it would still a banana and a fruit of my labor (pun intended). You wouldn't say that's not a banana, that's green therefore it's not what a banana should look like. And well, you wouldn't say only black people can be rappers (which I know you did not) but the way you bring about your case, you're implying such.
Hip-Hop and Rap is a cultural music genre created by Blacks in The Bronx. Notice there arent any White "founders" of Hip Hop.
Besides if you want to draw a green banana go ahead. we have freedom of speech in this country. so that means you can draw your banana and i can call your banana a sh*tty drawing.



I am aware of such dangers as the TB that can't be treated but I'm also aware you can die from drinking too much water. Aspirin is legal, you could take 13 of them mothaf*ckas and it would be your LAST headache. Are you really that paranoid that this new strain of TB will turn into some form of epidimic similar to the black plague? Do you really feel that strongly that we should just build a fence that's 15ft. high all across the border between us and Mexico? Do you believe that would be accomplished without the help of any illegal immigrants in this country?

Why would you drink a lethal amount of water.( i realize that there arte people who have and i think that if they were stupid enough to do it then they are probably a detriment to the country anyway.) If oyu take that much asprin then you are probably wanting to die.

Do you even know what the steps are for controlling a possible outbreak?
1.Identify potential outbreak. DONE THAT
2.vallidate and investigate. well since according to you its a new strain. MUST HAVE DONE THAT TOO.
3.Identify the source. well there are many possible sources. but you seem to think immigrants are a source.
4.develop a hypothesis. "maybe there are cases of a new strain of tuberculosis because there are vectors in the area. including new people.
an immigrant just died in a border city of TB and now there are more cases of TB. And since Tuberculosis cases are is estimated to be worse in developing areas like those in South America, Africa or Asia have the highest susceptibility to Tuberculosis due to the low living standards and the bad economic and social conditions it must be someone from mexico and not canada.
5. Implement prevention and control. You make qurantines and you try to contain the agent. If mexican immigrants are a possible vector, then shut down borders.

I'm sorry but I find a huge personal misunderstanding with the pathology of thinking that we can say things like 'they're criminals just for walking across a line' when you sit there taking the freedoms you have for granted. Yes, I will say you take them for granted because it's clearly you have when you find a personal problem with another human being crossing a line that only exists on a map in order to provide not a decent living but A LIVING for their family.
I am a patriot and the way i think is patriotic. so according to you, me and samps have a disease for being patriotic. They are criminals because THEY ARE BRAKING THE LAW. and the problem i have with an immigrant is not personal, i just think that they should stay in their own country. you know the on that they live in.
The lines are not just there on a map. Those BORDERS and were earned by either paying for the land or by earning it through blood shed. So those "lines" are far from what you call them. They are borders that NEED to be respected any and all countries.

Sorry to all the people against illegal immigration but the truth is practically none of them stay here longer than a few years before returning to Mexico. Get over yourselves, we already pay taxes to go to complete B.S. things.
where did you get that figure?
if they are only here a few years, why dont they stay in mexico then. They surely are not going to get rich working for what the "gabachos" pay them.
they would be better off making an honest living back in mexico.

MY LAST QUESTION TO THOSE WHO OPPOSE ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION:

Would you feel better about yourself knowing that your tax dollars went to put food on the table for a family of illegal immigrants who had been forced to flee their home country due to a poor economy and hellacious gang violence OR would you rather it go to the cost of paying for a fraction of a bomb?

If the bomb is going to help out Americans in the armed forces. then lets build the bomb. At least the people in the armed forces have a sense of national pride.
 
frasertheking;806882; said:
in Scotland we welcome immigrants.

hell if i could swap every 12 year old ho with 5 kids with no job with a hard working immigrant i would.

most of what i know about fish was taught to me by a polish worker.

I bet most of your immigrants fill out papers for citizenship.
I respect those because they are doing the right thing.

but if you immigrate to a country.

Poland to Scotland


your Scottish first Polish second

Thats a problem that has been adressed in this thread.
the immigrants are not assimilating into the American culture. they choose to put a flag other that the American one on the back of their car. They dont "get around" to learning english.

be bi-lingual its a really good thing. but not learning the language spoken around you is not.
 
the immigrants are not assimilating into the American culture. they choose to put a flag other that the American one on the back of their car. They dont "get around" to learning english.

be bi-lingual its a really good thing. but not learning the language spoken around you is not.


You say they should be assimilating to the American culture, well if you choose to say that then you yourself should be able to define it?

Do tell, what is American culture?

I personally doubt that you could define it as there really isn't a specific American culture as the entire nation is a figurative mixing pot of thousands of cultures and subcultures.


So now they can't display their home countries colors after having moved?
Then tell all the Italians to stop hanging Italy's flag and all the British to stop hanging the flag of Great Britain. I wonder how they'll take that..


I concur with you that being bi-lingual is a fantastic thing but you saying they don't 'get around' to it isn't a fair statement. Learning a new language especially one as complex as english doesn't happen over night or even over a few months for the average person, give them THAT break atleast because if you were in their position you'd plead for the same. I don't believe that you think it happens that fast either but Jesus Christ, have a heart.


Come back at me for that last line, say I'm a bleeding heart liberal if you want. I could care less. I have no political affiliations but merely a heart and mind that has intentions of making things better for everyone. So I'm sorry if you can't respect my desire for peace and unity.




and Samps....


nice attempt at veiling your hateful prejudices.:barf:
 
You say they should be assimilating to the American culture, well if you choose to say that then you yourself should be able to define it?Do tell, what is American culture?
Hows this?
get your kids involved in baseball or football or rugby or any competetive sport. Get a job and work your ass of to make a living. VOTE Take pride in knowing that there are fellow country-men dying in other countries so you dont have to.Eat hamburgers, hotdogs.
have bar b ques with the neighboors. obey the law.stand and take your hat off for the national anthem. put your hand over your heart when you say the pledge
thats american culture to me.

I personally doubt that you could define it as there really isn't a specific American culture as the entire nation is a figurative mixing pot of thousands of cultures and subcultures.
I think i did pretty well actually. Its what Americans around here do.
Its what most Americans in other States do.


So now they can't display their home countries colors after having moved?Then tell all the Italians to stop hanging Italy's flag and all the British to stop hanging the flag of Great Britain. I wonder how they'll take that..
Have you really seen an Italian immigant hang the Italian flag over the U.S flag? Same with the British. I have never heard of that happening.
Personally if i saw an immigrant of any country with his old countries flag flying and not the U.S Flag i would ask him to take it down. Besides it isnt their home country anymore now is it? The U.S. is

I concur with you that being bi-lingual is a fantastic thing but you saying they don't 'get around' to it isn't a fair statement. Learning a new language especially one as complex as english doesn't happen over night or even over a few months for the average person, give them THAT break atleast because if you were in their position you'd plead for the same. I don't believe that you think it happens that fast either but Jesus Christ, have a heart.

English is a very difficult language. no argument there. but when an immigrant has lived in this country for years and years and still cant carry on a decent conversation in english, THEN i have a problem with it. They should know english if they plan to live in this country and become citizens. i dont plan to live in Mexico but i still took the time to learn the spanish

Come back at me for that last line, say I'm a bleeding heart liberal if you want. I could care less. I have no political affiliations but merely a heart and mind that has intentions of making things better for everyone. So I'm sorry if you can't respect my desire for peace and unity.

why would i call you a bleeding heart liberal?
i dont think you are.
i just think you dont have any idea about illegal immigration.
research the subject i suggest. so far all you have really said is "they are people too."
I acknowledge thier humanity. I just believe that they should stay in there own country. I think that if they want to be american so bad. they should get a green card and begin naturalization. then get a GED and work hard for his, his children's, and the tax payer's sake.
 
i agree they should respect your country.

im sick of being told im racist for being proud of being white . im not gona feel bad because of what others did in the past.

j/k {white power} j/k
 
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