Does anybody use airstones in their ray setups?
Mine 180 gal
1 fx5
2 xp3
1 405
All packed with media
35-45% water changes every 3 days.
Mine 180 gal
1 fx5
2 xp3
1 405
All packed with media
35-45% water changes every 3 days.
Stingray filtration- share your experience
- Thread starter Energy
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Enemyarms;4762672; said:
Rays aren't cheap. There's no way around it. IF you can't invest money then substitute with time. IF you can't devote time or money then rays may be difficult for you to keep at this time.
IF you're looking for a cheap sump watch greateriowareefsociety.org it's a reef site. Get yourself an acrylic tank and butcher yourself a sump.
Part of the fun of keeping rays is learning......
id say the sump is louder than the pump. you can only hear the hum of the motor running on the pump. I was able to get the ultima II filter and pump together on craigslist for $500 here is a link: http://www.aquaticponds.com/Sequence-750-Pump-3600SEQ12-3600-GPH_p_423.html thats the cheapest place that i can find on the pumps. the sump came with the tank. Its 6'x2'x18" It was made for saltwater so i went and got the ultima instead. I also run a 5" bubble disk but im not sure i really need it.Enemyarms;4762672; said:
Enemyarms;4762135; said:
Yep built the sump and partitioned it off myself. Used an old 145g tank I had sitting around. All you need is a tank some 1/4 inch Plexi and silicone to partition it off then the pvc and supplies to plum it. Then a pump and media. Lots of older threads to learn or mimick from.
Energy;4746558; said:
I am also a newb in owning freshwater rays. Just wanna share my view on this. I think it does not matter with the size of the display tank. It needs to be large enough for the ray. I think ideally a ray must have at least 1 meter cubic of water and I know this is sometime hard to fulfil because technically if you want to put 2 rays in a tank you must have a tank of 2 meter long and 1 meter wide and 1 meter high. Thats 200cm x100 x 100, equals to 2000 liter of water or 400 gallon. And that's huge. That's why from what I read from this website or from other websites, having rays in a big pond is more ideal. I know not everyone can build a 3x4 meter pond due to size.
But as long as the size of the tank is sufficient I think there wouldnt be a problem.
As for filtration. My experience told me that you must at least have flow rate of 5 times the tank volume. So if you have 400 gallon of tank, you must at least have filter pump that can do 2000 gallon per hour. Having 2 or more filters are better. IMHO, no such thing as over filtration. Well you pay more electricity cost...but that's your financial risk of owning such a big tank.
For a fish tank water change should be at least once a week 30% i think that's just a general rule of thumb. I own and breed plecos. I do water change every 2 days to try to immitate (not even close maybe) the condition of fast water in rio xingu. Rays come from the same place as plecos (amazon, rio xingu etc) so I think the water change should be around the same interval (twice a week) However I am still a newb in this matter maybe the more experience ray keeprs can tell more.
IMHO, I dont think you need RO system for keeping rays. It will become problems more than beneficial. As RO water is just a plain water with minimum or even no mineral contents. You need to put some minerals to make RO water usable for fish. As far as I know people use RO water to soften up the water. As I said above, I used to breed pleco (L333) and I don't use RO water to soften the water as they breed in normal conditioned tap water. So I don't think it's necessary. There are many ray owners in my area that don't use RO system. I think it's expensive and totally un necessary. I don't know if others think differently. I am just speaking out of my experience.
As long as you have adequate filtration, regular water change, appropriate size of tank for your rays. I think they will be happy...just like any other fish. Cheers
tank size 1000 gal
sump size 300 gal
pumps 4 x 5000 liters per hour
4 x 25 watt UVS
24 hour drip via a HMA no need for RO the drip changes 150 gal per dayle
stock
2 x female p14 16 inch disk
1 x female leo x BD 13 inch disk
1 x male p14 15 inch disk
1 x 26 inch chilli red asian aro
1 x 20 inch dat pulcher
2 x 12 inch dat indo
1 x 14 inch dat cambelli
1 x 20 inch lince cat
1 x 24 inch tigrinus
10 x 12 inch tin foil barbs
sump size 300 gal
pumps 4 x 5000 liters per hour
4 x 25 watt UVS
24 hour drip via a HMA no need for RO the drip changes 150 gal per dayle
stock
2 x female p14 16 inch disk
1 x female leo x BD 13 inch disk
1 x male p14 15 inch disk
1 x 26 inch chilli red asian aro
1 x 20 inch dat pulcher
2 x 12 inch dat indo
1 x 14 inch dat cambelli
1 x 20 inch lince cat
1 x 24 inch tigrinus
10 x 12 inch tin foil barbs
