Stock Discussion

[Jon M]

Trouser Cough - Oh, I think I understand the surprise factor you're describing and I like it! I'm definitely leaning towards one of these guys, but I dunno about a couple! The ripsaw looks awesome but I agree on the size, and I asked Shelby and she really likes the giraffe a lot! As far as the size though, you said 6' tank, but my tank is 8' typo? It's 8' x 4' and 30" tall.

J Joshuakahan - Oof. Tough decisions. We're really digging the giraffe, but I've always admired the tigrinus. Here's a question. Would two of them bother each other being both bottom dwellers? Or even bother Jack my fire eel?.... The odoe pike doesn't strike my particular fancy that much, nor the granulosus.

 

[Joshuakahan]

Trouser Cough - Oh, I think I understand the surprise factor you're describing and I like it! I'm definitely leaning towards one of these guys, but I dunno about a couple! The ripsaw looks awesome but I agree on the size, and I asked Shelby and she really likes the giraffe a lot! As far as the size though, you said 6' tank, but my tank is 8' typo? It's 8' x 4' and 30" tall.

J Joshuakahan - Oof. Tough decisions. We're really digging the giraffe, but I've always admired the tigrinus. Here's a question. Would two of them bother each other being both bottom dwellers? Or even bother Jack my fire eel?.... The odoe pike doesn't strike my particular fancy that much, nor the granulosus.

I’ve never kept them, but I don’t see why a giraffe and tigrinus wouldn’t be compatible. The cool factor with the odoe isn’t in its fancyness, it’s cool factor is being a badass predator with large teeth, like a wolf fish or tigerfish lol

 

[Fallen_Leaves16]

I've seen a few keepers cohab tigrinus and giraffe (mostly volta) with little short-term issues. I don't think it'd be much of an issue in larger tanks. If the fire eel's small enough to be eaten, you run the risk of that happening (doubt a tigrinus would really go for one if it's barely small enough to eat though).
What about planiceps/firewood catfish? They're fairly unique and resemble an odd, skinny tiger shovelnose; not a very common fish, nor is it one with a large following, but they do look fairly unique IMO.
Brachyplatystoma platynemum (slobbering catfish) are one of my favorite pimelodids; they don't get absolutely massive and are quite rare (mainly d/t exportation restrictions), plus their long barbels and filaments are quite nice to look at.
Ageneiosus magoi is a fairly uncommon species of active woodcat; they get to a decent size, often hover round the middle of the water column, and do look unique; not the prettiest fish out there, though.
Megalodoras uranoscopus is a cool, ripsaw-looking fish. Might be worth considering.

 

[Trouser Cough]

As far as the size though, you said 6' tank, but my tank is 8' typo? It's 8' x 4' and 30" tall.

Sorry, first day w/ the new fingers. They'll probably be saying garbled stuff all day.

 

[Jon M]

J Joshuakahan - Hmm. See, that's not the cool factor I'm going for though, lol. In fact I'm really going for a peaceful vibe. I'm not interested in predators with large teeth. If I wanted a war zone I would have kept my male Jag Dahmer in there. He's actually going to his new home today in a 180g.

Fallen_Leaves16 - Hey there. Well my fire eel is about 2.5' so no tigrinus is gonna be eating him anytime soon! I will say though, it's kind of sounding like the tigrinus are semi aggressive in nature? If that's the same I may steer clear. Last thing I want to worry about is a catfish eating one of the smaller stock fish like a severum or geo. The firewood looks cool but pretty large. I'm not feeling the other two. The megalodoras very much reminds me of the buiild of the strip raph cat I have, and he's hands down the most boring fish I've ever kept. Poor guy.

Trouser Cough haha, no worries. Me and Shelby were experimenting with video stuff and her phone has this pretty cool time lapse feature. Check this out that we made last night.

240 wc

 

[Fallen_Leaves16]

Tigs are supposedly sedentary and don't tend to bother inhabitants much, but I have heard that they may bicker a bit amongst other bottom dwellers. I know they'll definitely eat tankmates small enough, but to what extent I'm not certain.
thebiggerthebetter would probably know a lot more about them, as he's kept them for some time.

 

[latapy10]

I was pondering some sort of larger active catfish (does active and catfish go together ever? ). I have a striped raph cat in one of the 55s and he's the most boring fish I've ever kept. I never see him and he hides under a log 24/7. I kinda gave up on the catfish idea after him but I've seen some folks with pretty active larger ones like maybe a tiger shovel nose, or this new one I've just recently heard of, vulture cat? Anyone have any input on active larger cats?

here you see mystus gulio an active catfish whole day...mystus gulio is medium sized catfish.It will swimm around aquarium all day. The other active catfishes are for me pimelodus pictus and pimelodus ornatus.

 

[thebiggerthebetter]

Nice thread. But some suggestions are impractical for long term keeping, both because of the size of fish (ripsaw, firewood) and compatibility.

So what's the current projected stock in its totality - species and sizes? I guess I forgot about some smaller tank mates, like the geophagus. Also, a lot of my suggestions disregarded the projected stock altogether, or rather assumed that you would still have your 240 and other tanks. But if you are dead set on what will go into your 560 gal out of your current fish, again, provide the list of species and current sizes, or sizes at planned introduction.

I think this will narrow the field tremendously. Now that the chaotic phase of the suggestions is maybe mostly over and we get better what scratches you where you itch, we could start narrowing the field.

 

[Jon M]

thebiggerthebetter -

Okay. So I will still have my other tanks and the 240 up and running, but I'm not planning stock for any of those tanks atm. Just the 560. I will be moving all of the 240 into the 560. (EDIT: and I do actually have plans for the two 55 since they alrdy have fish we're gonna split up among the two but those don't take any part in this current stock planning)

-clown knife (about 2-2.5')
-fire eel (about 2.5')
-24k spider kelberi peacock bass (roughly 9-10")
-red shoulder severum sp hero (roughly 6-7" alrdy in with the big boys)
-spotted florida gar (maybe 12" or so)
-4x geophagus sveni (currently growing out in a 55)

So do you think the giraffe nose is too big of a boy for the 560? (600, w/e, does someone know where I can find an accurate gallon calculator that incooperates the glass/acrylic thickness in the equation?)

 

[thebiggerthebetter]

IDK anything about geophagus, never had them. They are taller cichlid but it seems they top out around 6 inches. I'd think knife fish, pbass (as it grows), and gar (as it grows) will try to prey on them sooner or later. Same may happen with the severum.

I think gcats are a good candidate.

Multiply (outside length minus 2x side wall thickness) times (outside width minus 2x front and back wall thickness) times (outside height minus bottom pane thickness), then convert cubic inches or cubic feet into gallons.