Strains?

[BlesOne]

...and if you're supposedly good at "putting down more" can you start doing so here now? Because all I've read from you are weak arguments and nonsense as you desperately try to piggy back of someone else's pointless post.

 

[Guapoteguy291]

75% is what you would call the majority. Therefore we can safely say the majority of the people don't care for what you are pushing or the way you present yourselves. Maybe it's just this site somehow I doubt it though.

 

[Guapoteguy291]

On the contrary I'm only using the ammunition you so graciously provide me in your posts. I'm anything but desperate I have no dog in this fight at all.

 

[BlesOne]

75% is what you would call the majority. Therefore we can safely say the majority of the people don't care for what you are pushing or the way you present yourselves. Maybe it's just this site somehow I doubt it though.

"Pushing" how? By sharing a photos? Lol you sound more and more like an insecure little girl the more you write... Rest assure that the bulk of sheep are concentrated here as it's become somewhat of a safe haven sadly.

 

[BlesOne]

On the contrary I'm only using the ammunition you so graciously provide me in your posts. I'm anything but desperate I have no dog in this fight at all.

The only ammunition you've shown here so far is that you're impossible to reason with given the fact that you're obviously a dimwit based on your pointless replies..

 

[darth pike]

Starting new aquarium strains is a fairly new thing to the hobby, and from the very beginning its been under great scrunity from ppl just like Stan and Dan and the rest of the pose. The one thing they all have in common other than being closed and sometimes a bit simple minded folks is that they've never really brought forward any real opposing arguments other than "it's gonna damage the pure location points in the hobby" , "I like the original ones better just cause", " it's gonna confuse us too much", " its just a gimmick", "hybrid hybrid hybrid"..... non of which makes too much sense in the grand scheme of things if you give some thought.

Op what you need to realize is that the hobby is evolving and that things are going to start changing very quickly all around you. Your best bet is to be ready for it all, as it seems that you're confused and unprepared to accept the changes. Don't be so quick to bash a concept that either you don't understand or are completely unfamiliar with, it makes you look foolish. Especially with your whole dog breeding reference.... Just wow.

Our new strains have been received very positively over all within the hobby and not only that the amount of interest they created has been outstanding to say the least. To be totally honest with you in most cases we struggle to meet the demands of the hobby when it comes to the offspring were producing, even here in your own market place. It's only in a few places like this forum that we get any type of back lash, it's actually quite funny. Although, I do admire your commitment to one another and how the 3 or 4 others in the group are quick to jump out at each other's defense. (the avengers would be proud)

Some of you say it's all just a ploy to extort others... Are you really that naive?? You really believe people will be that willing to give away their hard earned money just because they became so enamored with the strain name regardless of the quality like some mindless idiots??? Trust me, its not easy to get people to spend their dollars on fish and shipping these days. Who cares what was used to create the bloodline if the end product meets and exceeds the highest standards? It's just a fish like you guys say right, so why settle for 2nd grade just cause it's "a known location"... If improvements can be made while still remaining consistent with the species why the heck not? And since it's not a pure location anymore than why not give it a strain name? And if YOU created the strain, why not give it a name that YOU like?

You guys don't have to approve of it or respect it even but you will have to accept it. It's not going anymore guys sorry, the new generation of fish keepers are coming and fortunately they seem to bring with them an open mind and a knack for quality . It's gonna get really tough for you guys even in this little hole in the wall of yours, there's a lot more to come. GL.

Thank you for putting your views in something that's easy to read/understand and mostly noninsulting. It makes it easier to see where you guys are coming from.

The one thing I do agree with is the fact the hobby is changing, and it can't be stopped. Which is some ways sad for us old timers. I remember way back when I first started in the hobby, and we would get hybrid cichlids into the pet store I worked at, they were destroyed. Every last one of them. And now look we have a hybrid forum.

And, scientifically speaking, crossing two locations of the same species is considered a hybrid though I know the major of the hobby doesn't see it as such (a lot of the speciality breeders do however). So the comment is relevant to me.

I know a lot of keepers that use the location name rather than the trade name for that certain umbie that was referenced after this post. It has far more impact to a lot of keepers.

I guess I just don't see the need/reason to name a strain something silly. For years, one of the best fish you could get was a cichlid from Rusty Wessel. While the term strain was used for his fish, it never was given a name other than that. I guess part of the reason the names rub people the wrong way is they do seem to be nothing but a marketing ploy because we've seen for a long time a focus on the fish, rather than the name.

But if you are crossing locations, I guess it might make sense to come up with a name to avoid the confusion. There are still a lot of keepers that prefer wild type fish, though as mentioned above the hobby is changing and those keepers are becoming fewer and fewer.

Again, thanks for posting in a coherent, non abrasive way. It helped a lot.

 

[Kayzee]

I dont care if this is was a wild or a hybrid, it's a pigeon blood but Discus are the exception . So many nice strains its insane.

 

[adamsfishes]

My personal opinion is that no discus strain is better than the best wild green type specimens.

 

[ragin_cajun]

WOW!

 

[darth pike]

My personal opinion is that no discus strain is better than the best wild green type specimens.

Agreed, though I'd say even worst brown specimens. Color isn't everything.