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Your loss boys I serious doubt a single one of you could screw with my collection alone lol let Alone the rest of our crew we would have loved to share some good fish cause while we have not posted in a while we check in from time to time and I'm sorry lol but there is not much of anything quality or interesting wise coming through this cichlids forum anymore lol you got to be tried if seeing petco oscars and what's this posts lol.....

Just post the fish. I'd like to see them. Why do you let the chatter bother you so much? Just explain what stock it's derived from, and leave it at that. Lots of people line breed fish. If they're not hybrids, I don't see why anyone should be offended by it.

This guy line breeds fish, makes no bones about it. Here is an example, he selected for red to produce some nice looking fish:
http://selectaquatics.com/odessa_barbs.htm
 
Hey bud I don't come fake sorry you run your mouth you get it back you were here you could get popped just the way I am I don't pull punches
You want to run your mouth but you definitely can't hang with me fish wise your too damn scared to Try even cause you would get trashed dude that's what's up and it's end of story in person someone don't like me lol good come rub your mouth we can get down I got no issues if you know me I ride either way
And those who do know me know I'm very chill until you come sideways when you do that get laid flat one way or another
Have a nice day boys keep the hating string yeah lol it seems to be the only thing your good at....
 
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You guys are too all over the place so much negative and ignorant hate you cant even focus... First off none of use posted a single hybrid for discussions they were pure so yapping about hybrids is off your own topic. Second don't make assumptions or makes things up my Diablo strain is far more established than two breedings lol... Next what's the point of a serious hobbyists gentleman?? What is it? It's to keep what you live, keep them well, breed if that's your thing and better what you keep period that's everyone's goal end of story and you all know it. Strains are named by many and it will continue and grow nothing any of you crying can do about it. It is marketing of course when you have something stand or set apart you market it now don't you. You want it identified as different or special if it is. What we do is better pure blood lines threw breeding programs with standards and it shows and they hobby knows lol sorry to bust your bubble boys be MFK is far from the only platform for fish anymore and even the hating people still know this they wouldn't hate... We don't have to prove a damn thing to you guys not were we trying we came to share thinking maybe the place was not as juvenile as before. Obviously wrong about that this is classics 1999 lol
So even though Ehh for some reason doesn't care for myself which is his right I appreciate his words since he spoke truth. If you all like pure cichlids a shame because we planned to share many beautiful fish with you all I put fish fish tick for tat with any keeper in the states and I don't say it being a big head. We been doing this a long long time none of us play games and all we keep is quality that's jus truth.
Most of you guys had nothing but bs to say and when you wanted to be combative like rajin I said you don't like you have been we you think put up or shut up and he puts a faded pink low grade imo bifa up he now claims is f1 lol
Listen man I don't care who it came from Dan of COA who I am good friends with or some other dan or rapps or whoever it was weak end of story
I told you so and said don't come with faded pink garbage if your going to try and smack talk Diablo cause you looked stupid and you brought a pencil to a sword fight you started lol that's a fail bud...
I don't mind if someone doesn't like I know how many do
I also know with a few of our groups strains your very very hard pressed to better them so if you just don't like that's cool because t when your run your mouth well then we tell you okay you think you have done better show us put up or again shut up it's really that simple. If your going to act like your issuing a challenge step up to the plate.
Why some of you can't break your ignorant thinking almost brain washing of old and outdated hobby practice is beyond me
I've been keeping fish for 29 years seen and heard it all
I've always been a pure blood cichlids keeper but I am also very well know I. The hybrid world and have many accolades with them. One thing I don't or ever do is mix crap and lie lol
If you see hybrid I have told you and I will probably charge you more for one lol
If it's pure your told I don't believe in market deception in fact I myself frown on it
By the way none of you can at any point at will obtain any collection point of any one cichlids ever it's always changing in the trade for several reasons and many you don't see often
So to say taking two pure location and crossing leaving you a better or stronger still pure blood polutes things is again super ignorant and shows your lack of knowledge
If it's something Kiel that again people will market and want credit for their works so we identify with a strain name
No one sends them back to thei county of origins for repopulations and you still have plenty selling you fish from whatever locations are available at any one time now don't you. Your never going to see its crosses or mixed like you assume just not the way it works
If your a pot farmer you make a strain your not going to be allowing it to be sold as someone's else's Strain are you no.. Same thing and one of you made a good point this is done all the time with discus and Africans yet we see no young there now do we. Open your horizons gents you will become a better partitioner and have a better time in the hobby
And again you all are welcome to step up and better our stains if you think you can should you have something negative to say on them we have yet to see anyone rise to the occasion
Sad you all act this way really it is...
No offense, man. Sometimes you're a bit much for me haha but I can respect what you do and have done.
I think part of what pisses me off so much is that I know you guys didn't go to two different Petsmarts, buy the same species and claim they're from different catch locations. I know that you guys have been working on these lineages for a loooong time starting with fish that were caught in rivers. And for the amount of work you guys have put into it I feel you should be able to name your lines. Generations of fish to get a particular physical trait or particular traits. You guys didn't just buy a fish and say "this whatever line." You guys have developed them over time.
I see no harm in any of it.
I get why people don't like the crossing of lakes but a little genetic diversity can be a good thing.
 
Starting new aquarium strains is a fairly new thing to the hobby, and from the very beginning its been under great scrunity from ppl just like Stan and Dan and the rest of the pose. The one thing they all have in common other than being closed and sometimes a bit simple minded folks is that they've never really brought forward any real opposing arguments other than "it's gonna damage the pure location points in the hobby" , "I like the original ones better just cause", " it's gonna confuse us too much", " its just a gimmick", "hybrid hybrid hybrid"..... non of which makes too much sense in the grand scheme of things if you give some thought.

Op what you need to realize is that the hobby is evolving and that things are going to start changing very quickly all around you. Your best bet is to be ready for it all, as it seems that you're confused and unprepared to accept the changes. Don't be so quick to bash a concept that either you don't understand or are completely unfamiliar with, it makes you look foolish. Especially with your whole dog breeding reference.... Just wow.

Our new strains have been received very positively over all within the hobby and not only that the amount of interest they created has been outstanding to say the least. To be totally honest with you in most cases we struggle to meet the demands of the hobby when it comes to the offspring were producing, even here in your own market place. It's only in a few places like this forum that we get any type of back lash, it's actually quite funny. Although, I do admire your commitment to one another and how the 3 or 4 others in the group are quick to jump out at each other's defense. (the avengers would be proud)

Some of you say it's all just a ploy to extort others... Are you really that naive?? You really believe people will be that willing to give away their hard earned money just because they became so enamored with the strain name regardless of the quality like some mindless idiots??? Trust me, its not easy to get people to spend their dollars on fish and shipping these days. Who cares what was used to create the bloodline if the end product meets and exceeds the highest standards? It's just a fish like you guys say right, so why settle for 2nd grade just cause it's "a known location"... If improvements can be made while still remaining consistent with the species why the heck not? And since it's not a pure location anymore than why not give it a strain name? And if YOU created the strain, why not give it a name that YOU like?

You guys don't have to approve of it or respect it even but you will have to accept it. It's not going anymore guys sorry, the new generation of fish keepers are coming and fortunately they seem to bring with them an open mind and a knack for quality . It's gonna get really tough for you guys even in this little hole in the wall of yours, there's a lot more to come. GL.
 
Starting new aquarium strains is a fairly new thing to the hobby, and from the very beginning its been under great scrunity from ppl just like Stan and Dan and the rest of the pose. The one thing they all have in common other than being closed and sometimes a bit simple minded folks is that they've never really brought forward any real opposing arguments other than "it's gonna damage the pure location points in the hobby" , "I like the original ones better just cause", " it's gonna confuse us too much", " its just a gimmick", "hybrid hybrid hybrid"..... non of which makes too much sense in the grand scheme of things if you give some thought.

Op what you need to realize is that the hobby is evolving and that things are going to start changing very quickly all around you. Your best bet is to be ready for it all, as it seems that you're confused and unprepared to accept the changes. Don't be so quick to bash a concept that either you don't understand or are completely unfamiliar with, it makes you look foolish. Especially with your whole dog breeding reference.... Just wow.

Our new strains have been received very positively over all within the hobby and not only that the amount of interest they created has been outstanding to say the least. To be totally honest with you in most cases we struggle to meet the demands of the hobby when it comes to the offspring were producing, even here in your own market place. It's only in a few places like this forum that we get any type of back lash, it's actually quite funny. Although, I do admire your commitment to one another and how the 3 or 4 others in the group are quick to jump out at each other's defense. (the avengers would be proud)

Some of you say it's all just a ploy to extort others... Are you really that naive?? You really believe people will be that willing to give away their hard earned money just because they became so enamored with the strain name regardless of the quality like some mindless idiots??? Trust me, its not easy to get people to spend their dollars on fish and shipping these days. Who cares what was used to create the bloodline if the end product meets and exceeds the highest standards? It's just a fish like you guys say right, so why settle for 2nd grade just cause it's "a known location"... If improvements can be made while still remaining consistent with the species why the heck not? And since it's not a pure location anymore than why not give it a strain name? And if YOU created the strain, why not give it a name that YOU like?

You guys don't have to approve of it or respect it even but you will have to accept it. It's not going anymore guys sorry, the new generation of fish keepers are coming and fortunately they seem to bring with them an open mind and a knack for quality . It's gonna get really tough for you guys even in this little hole in the wall of yours, there's a lot more to come. GL.

Well said Bless one now let me feed my Red wine, red blunts and add to the hobby ! Big props to voodoo, diablo and Gorillus...Cichlid power...
 
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