i like where you went with this joey, but what about the times when we do have spikes from just the things that get past us like power outages,
A power outage is out of our control..... BUT we can be prepared for one.
We have to feed, so ammonia spikes cannot be avoided during that time. What we can do is insure we are feeding proper amounts of food. And turn the filters off until food is gone can help. Food does not turn into ammonia fast enough to cause the rays an issue. It will be eaten by then. Turning the filters off helps with the food from not getting sucked into the filter, and makes sure it can be eaten of removed instead of polluting the system.
Meds should not be used until we know what we are treating for. For the most part, rays are treated internal parasites. Which generally dont harm the bacteria anyways. This should happen in a QT tank. The main ray tank should never have parasites if everything was properly QT'd prior to adding it to the system. Any other meds, for injuries and not needed for rays. Good clean water is all they need to heal.
will these cells build up over time?
Possibly, but probably not, if we are practicing good husbandry.
for the captive bred rays yes it would take alot longer but its still a possibility. but in a wc if these cells are already there from being mishandled and everything else this would happen faster.
Agreed
now that we are talking out of the bag and in our aquariums for a long period of time and can rule out ammonnia poisoning being the cause of death.
No we cannot. The result of the death MAY be hyperplasia, but leading up to that was ammonia. If the ray has survived the trip home, and is doing fine for a few months, then dies all of a sudden. Something else went wrong... my guess would be that more ammonia was in the system in large enough amounts to make the hyperplasia worse. I say ammonia, as that would probably be the most common cause in an aquarium. Again... probably preventable.
if its in the bag its pretty much well going to be ammonia that gets it first but in a stable environment like our tanks what about the things we cant control.
like a power outage and generator failures, food getting sucked up and staying in the filter and we dont realize it and everything else that life throws our way? could these be possibilities?
We cannot control when a power outage happens... but like i said, we can prepare for one.
Food getting sucked into the filter? I addressed that above.. turn the filters off during feeding. The rays will consume all of the food before it has a chance to have an effect of the water quality.
What about the other things life throws our way?? Be well prepared is all i can say. We cant control everything, but we do control quite a bit.
what about the people that have had a ray die on them that has been in their aquarium for 8 months +. and had a ray die for seemingly no reason. i would really like to hear from them.
Answered that above already...
I also agree with what you are saying on fatty foods. thats a big factor as well that could end a rays life early
Thats a whole other topic right there:
Are we feeding the right foods? What are the long term effects of it?
Do we feed simply because shrimp,fish fillets, or pellets are more readily accessible, and generally cheaper than what a ray would eat in the wild? As in worms, small live animals, small crustaceans, etc..
Could THIS be the reason for sudden death?
