Sumatra vs Borneo

[Vancouver_98683]

Always Nice to see some activity in this Datnoid forum! Great write up Jush !

I Included a couple links below on this topic, and the only wild caught Sumatran photo I found through my years of searching (post #7) I’m skeptical of the current Sumatran Island Dat trade as well. The vast majority of wild caught photos are from the Borneo/Kalimantan island of Indonesia. If I’m inaccurate. I challenge u Show a wild photo here with a collection locale . If u see one on Instagram, Facebook, or Google. It’s likely 100% Borneo/Kalimantan. Sumatran rivers are not as accessible. Population appears depleted from heavy pollution from the tree palm oil manufacturing. I believe most sellers are labeling Borneo collected Dats themselves as Sumatran if there appearances checks all the boxes. Therefore, hiking up the prices. Love to hear your thoughts.

Sumatran and Borneo (Kalimantan) Locale

To avoid confusion. Borneo and Sumatra are islands belonging to Indonesia. Since, these locales are attached to the marketing of these Indonesian Datnoids (D. Microlepis). Hope it helps clarify . Lots of Borneo, Kalimantan, and Sumatran names being thrown out there. * Borneo (green) is a...

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Backyard Fishing - Indonesia

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[Jush]

Duketown

Thats who supplied some to the UK, when I went and saw them they was unstable and some had mix bar, so I doubted the legitimacy of Sumatra.

 

[Jush]

Always Nice to see some activity in this Datnoid forum! Great write up Jush !

I Included a couple links below on this topic, and the only wild caught Sumatran photo I found through my years of searching (post #7) I’m skeptical of the current Sumatran Island Dat trade as well. The vast majority of wild caught photos are from the Borneo/Kalimantan island of Indonesia. If I’m inaccurate. I challenge u Show a wild photo here with a collection locale . If u see one on Instagram, Facebook, or Google. It’s likely 100% Borneo/Kalimantan. Sumatran rivers are not as accessible. Population appears depleted from heavy pollution from the tree palm oil manufacturing. I believe most sellers are labeling Borneo collected Dats themselves as Sumatran if there appearances checks all the boxes. Therefore, hiking up the prices. Love to hear your thoughts.

Sumatran and Borneo (Kalimantan) Locale

To avoid confusion. Borneo and Sumatra are islands belonging to Indonesia. Since, these locales are attached to the marketing of these Indonesian Datnoids (D. Microlepis). Hope it helps clarify . Lots of Borneo, Kalimantan, and Sumatran names being thrown out there. * Borneo (green) is a...

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Wild Dat Pics

Backyard Fishing - Indonesia

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I think it definitely needs more digging into, some of the Borneo pics are stable & also just noticed myself a lot seem to have patches in their bars, like little specs of golden that interrupt the black bar. Dont know if that's just pure chance, with the lack of more than 1 source of Sumatra datnoid photos at our disposal, it is really hard to tell.

 

[Jush]

I'd love to have a reliable source to collect the following regional variants of Indo Datnoids;

Kalimantan Mekong Sumatra Veitnam

I speak to some Indo vendors over there, but even they don't seem to have Sumatra even though they list their fishes as Sumatra. Vietnam seem to often be 3bar, nice vibrant golden, Mekong often very similar to Pulcher from pictures I've seen. Kalimantan similar to Borneo, but just another regional variant to tick off & Sumatra obviously nobody really knows... I'm not really sure if there is a checklist for the other regionals variants either, I think its a chance of luck. The only reason I question Sumatra is because we see Datnoids sold stupidly high as Sumatra but we never see "Mekong Indo Datnoid, Vietnam Indo Datnoid, Kalimantan Indo Datnoid" enter the market with those specific names or often a high price tag alongside them just for the name, because nobody decides to put a regional name to anything other than Sumatra & Borneo..

 

[suckerfish]

Check out the contrast in this guy’s dats

For Sale - 220gal 6 months old/ Rays,Dats,,Zebrine Pike and others

Selling my tank setup. Have other plans coming soon and need to dump this. Will sell as package deal for 2500.00 10” Pure Black Diamond ray male -1100.00 Zabrine pike 15”-400.00 2 Shortbody bass -150 ea or both for 250.00 1 Xingu bass 14”-200.00 3 Blackberry SD-250.00 for them 6” or so 1 3 bar...

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[Jush]

Check out the contrast in this guy’s dats

For Sale - 220gal 6 months old/ Rays,Dats,,Zebrine Pike and others

Selling my tank setup. Have other plans coming soon and need to dump this. Will sell as package deal for 2500.00 10” Pure Black Diamond ray male -1100.00 Zabrine pike 15”-400.00 2 Shortbody bass -150 ea or both for 250.00 1 Xingu bass 14”-200.00 3 Blackberry SD-250.00 for them 6” or so 1 3 bar...

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Just different stableness, Borneo, Vietnam, etc considering its 3 bar.