Tea cup breeders??
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Miles I agree with you 100%, i've been trying to stay out of this thread FOR THIS REASON, bec ppl start making up facts about things that aren't true, yes the red retic which is just a form of p. reticulata can become mature at 6 inches (males) but that is not to say that they arent going to keep on growing. These rays need space, they grow to be around 30inches when full grown, and then on top of that you need to consider there long tail. I personaly own two retics and they are both 9 inches (there disk). My male is a red retics and guess what, he still doesn't have fully rolled claspers. Im not saying that this doesn't happen with this species, he could be a late bloomer. But the retics that are 6 inches and have fully rolled claspers, I would think mabey weren't kept in the best conditions, and there for did not grow to the size that they should be at and are older than they look. Miles I agree with you, and I think that people shouldn't be giving out missguiding info about rays, like that they can be kept in a small tank, any retic NEEDS a 150 at least when fully grown. Miles your a bigger person than he is and you shouldn't droop down to his level.
But no one even knows for sure that these are in fact retics. There are to many species that look similar to rule out the fact that this could be a different species. Until someone breaks out their DNA kit and does some tests it should be at least treated a sub species. ie. P. reticulata sp "red".
Kind of a silimar situation: Just recently Honduran red points were classified as their own species when most people thought they were a more colorful covict in a specific local. They look nearly identicle aside from slight color differences. Same situation in my opinion. The "red retic" has a flatter profile, color difference and from the few pieces I've seen a shorter tail (just what i've personally observed of the 6 I've seen)... could very well be its own species but no one will know until the scientific evidence is drummed up.
just my 2cents if they're even worth that much
Kind of a silimar situation: Just recently Honduran red points were classified as their own species when most people thought they were a more colorful covict in a specific local. They look nearly identicle aside from slight color differences. Same situation in my opinion. The "red retic" has a flatter profile, color difference and from the few pieces I've seen a shorter tail (just what i've personally observed of the 6 I've seen)... could very well be its own species but no one will know until the scientific evidence is drummed up.
just my 2cents if they're even worth that much
Hi I don't want a row about these but the pic Miles posted was of my male who is only 5" disc and his claspers are rolled. The female I have is about 5.5 - 6" disc and I am hoping to breed them. The shop where I got them went back to get some more and were told one female had had a still born pup. The shop got both the females and the other had 2 still bourn pups one of which they put in the freezer and showed me the next time I was in. The female that had had the pup was smaller than mine about 5" disc. All this seems to me to indicate they may stay smaller but I guess only time will tell. All these rays were wild caught. All the ones I have seen admitted only 7 but the males all had rolled claspers and none were bigger than 6" disc and two were just tiny pups 2-3" disc.
They are a nice ray but are picky eaters. Mine have bulked up but do still have odd days where they don't eat. I have had them about 3 months now but no sign of breeding yet. Maybe in another year or two I can let you know how big mine have grown.
They are a nice ray but are picky eaters. Mine have bulked up but do still have odd days where they don't eat. I have had them about 3 months now but no sign of breeding yet. Maybe in another year or two I can let you know how big mine have grown.
sounds good, like I said mine doesn't have fully rolled claspers at 9 inches but he could be a late bloomer, ya never now.
Best of luck trying to breed them, im trying to do the same with mine.
Best of luck trying to breed them, im trying to do the same with mine.
You Americans must not like these as they hit Canada a lot. 
Sold as David say as Red caquetas.
If they aren't retics they sure do a damn good impression of one....
I have also seen ones here at less than 10 inches (I would more likely say 8) that were sexually mature and breeding. Even at an extremely expesive store you could get the breeding pair for $700.
Sold as David say as Red caquetas.If they aren't retics they sure do a damn good impression of one....
I have also seen ones here at less than 10 inches (I would more likely say 8) that were sexually mature and breeding. Even at an extremely expesive store you could get the breeding pair for $700.
Sry guys.. Im not 100% sure that they are red spec. But they do look like em.. Its a german guy who owns em.. The male and female scould be 30-35 cm, same as the normal rectis.. Still want the red ones though.. Im not German so it would be nice if someone could read it and tell that it says.. i could be rong..
Link: http://images.google.dk/imgres?imgu...images?q=ray+Red+Reticulatus&gbv=2&hl=da&sa=G
Im not German so it would be nice if someone could read it and tell that it says.. i could be rong..Link: http://images.google.dk/imgres?imgu...images?q=ray+Red+Reticulatus&gbv=2&hl=da&sa=G
