As far as the banded cats, they’re full fresh as far as a dozen pages told me. Oddly found out there definitely brackish and marine sturgeon lol
The dreaded RTC
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Carefully culled and raised Japanese koi in Japan mud ponds in the hands of a Japanese breeder can and will hit 2.5'-3' in under 10 years. In our hands, I'd not expect it. Yeah, they are expensive fish!
You can get a 1.5'-2' RTC from The Fish Place (or Pets Plus in Lockport, or Markheim's pets) for $50-$100, or so it used to be.
Your friend's RTC is the biggest I've heard of raised in captivity. This is quite rare, I think, hence, I'd not count on it. Taksan (a former member here) kept a pair in 15,000 gal for 27 years and they maxed out at 4'.
TSN would be better with koi that it cannot fit in its mouth by any stretch of imagination. RTC is known to still try. Still a gamble. But TSN will not break 2.5'-3' as what we get is refuse culls from food fish farming or cheaply raised TSN from SE Asia.
2 Koi is just a start, a seeding, or a catalyst. It's common knowledge that one can't stop buying koi until there is more koi mass in the pond than water
I think so. I lived in Rochester NY for 10 years and we had a 12,000 gal koi pond, 6' deep, did ok in winters with just a deep water fish tank bubbler.
I am not aware of the Chinese high fin barbs/sharks/loaches needing salt in their water.
Sturgeon however are rarely all freshwater. Most are anadromous, meaning they enter freshwater only to spawn, like salmon. Some are catadromous, entering marine water to spawn, like eels.
Some get landlocked.
I’m guessing you live around Buffalo lol, name dropping The Fish Place and allCarefully culled and raised Japanese koi in Japan mud ponds in the hands of a Japanese breeder can and will hit 2.5'-3' in under 10 years. In our hands, I'd not expect it. Yeah, they are expensive fish!
You can get a 1.5'-2' RTC from The Fish Place (or Pets Plus in Lockport, or Markheim's pets) for $50-$100, or so it used to be.
Your friend's RTC is the biggest I've heard of raised in captivity. This is quite rare, I think, hence, I'd not count on it. Taksan (a former member here) kept a pair in 15,000 gal for 27 years and they maxed out at 4'.
TSN would be better with koi that it cannot fit in its mouth by any stretch of imagination. RTC is known to still try. Still a gamble. But TSN will not break 2.5'-3' as what we get is refuse culls from food fish farming or cheaply raised TSN from SE Asia.
2 Koi is just a start, a seeding, or a catalyst. It's common knowledge that one can't stop buying koi until there is more koi mass in the pond than water
I think so. I lived in Rochester NY for 10 years and we had a 12,000 gal koi pond, 6' deep, did ok in winters with just a deep water fish tank bubbler.
I am not aware of the Chinese high fin barbs/sharks/loaches needing salt in their water.
Sturgeon however are rarely all freshwater. Most are anadromous, meaning they enter freshwater only to spawn, like salmon. Some are catadromous, entering marine water to spawn, like eels.
Some get landlocked.
6’ deep pond with a deeply placed bubbler? Was it just Koi in the pond? I’ve heard that not much else can survive those kinds of temperatures but if they can, that would be awesome (and save money on building a pond in the garage for winter). Also gotta throw it out that I love the fish place and won’t buy livestock at any other stores anymore!You could keep channelcats. They come in many colors, blue, brownish, silver, grey, black, white, pink, silver or blue with spots and piebald. According toI’m guessing you live around Buffalo lol, name dropping The Fish Place and all
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they can grow to 4', but I've never seen one wild or captive much more than 3'. most don't even get that big. They are NY natives, too.
Read my prior post in its entirety and attentively, will yah?I’m guessing you live around Buffalo lol, name dropping The Fish Place and all
Our pond had koi, goldfish, shubunkin, golden orf, and channel catfish.
My friend your house in NY was beautiful! That landscaping and koi pond is A one my friend A one!Read my prior post in its entirety and attentively, will yah?
Our pond had koi, goldfish, shubunkin, golden orf, and channel catfish.
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Holy crap that’s gorgeous! Yea sorry, I did read it, I got a literal hole in my brain so sometimes details just slip by. I wish I had enough yard space to work with for a pond that size! My back yard is (for some reason, previous owners were weird.) almost entirely paved, so the area I’m working with is about the only unpaved portion.Read my prior post in its entirety and attentively, will yah?
Our pond had koi, goldfish, shubunkin, golden orf, and channel catfish.
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The prior owners of your house were just like me. They hated maintaining grass. They just had a different way of coping with it.
They can't survive salt, full freshwater, some sturgeon species can swim into freshwater tho
Fish that can survive cold weather that you may also like : channel catfish (most I've raised grew to 30 to 36 inches), blue catfish,golden mahsheer,common snapping turtle (need a fence around pond,take inside during winter,may attack dogs),
