The Elephant in the Living Room

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I'm sorry but that's gotta be one of the most retarded things I've ever heard. Requiring a permit and annual inspection for owning a tiger is sacrificing liberty?!?!

Yeah I'm sure that's what the founding fathers had in mind when they wrote the constitution.


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What they had in mind was a limited government. They purposely left it vague.....

You need to keep in mind that there is a never ending push towards banning exotics all together. It is giving up freedom when the gov't does not know where to stop. Take a look at the big constrictors, they are being regulated to complete bans but it is happening slowly. Same thing with big mammals or venomous.

Have you ever applied for a special species permit? Don't judge until you have tried.

Of course he hasnt. Nor has anybody else in this thread. The ONLY people who can truly comment on this world is those that live it. Sadly I do not have the extreme pleasure of living all of what I want, but I do get some and have pursued others. Heck here in PA, with the ridiculously horrible permit process we have, even if you fulfill the requirements they can still say no. Heck, thats whats going on right now. Even if you fulfill all the requirements, they still tell you no and wont give you a permit. The FACTS do not support the outrageous claims by some in this thread. The number of incidents in the private sector, you know what lets change that to % of incidents, is not some astronomical number. Is actually quite low. As I said in the very beginning of this thread, that movie is CRAP CRAP CRAP. Its BS, full of lies and exaggerations.

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In Ohio you can own pretty much anything without a permit which most likely resulted in a massive amount of injuries from all the unprepared owners, maybe not anymore but that's how it used to be

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Completely and utterly false. I demand numbers to back this up. You will NOT be able to. Infact, you can use PA and OH in your numbers as our reptiles are essentially unregulated.
 
Now how you know that? Or you just came up with just a guess? Let's be realistic that there are more domesticated animals than the exotic animals because we are exposed to the domesticated animals more than the exotic animals.
Crayfishguy, I'm waiting for your response. Otherwise you havent back up with you claims.
 
Crayfishguy, I'm waiting for your response. Otherwise you havent back up with you claims.

The stats are from USARK. A little research of your own would have pulled it up just as easily.

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Not always. I have been to a number of zoos that have had security that I do not feel is adequate, husbandry is horrible, and the animals were in tiny cages.

A zoo I visited in Puerto Rico comes to mind.Among the atrocities there was some kind of spider monkey in a nice sized cage but it was sitting on the floor because there were no types of branches for it to climb on and the monkey was alone.
 
The stats are from USARK. A little research of your own would have pulled it up just as easily.

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The big problem is its 72 million dogs vs 2 million snakes in U.S isn't enough to change my opinion about domesticated animals are 3x dangerous than exotic animals. Why there are no numbers of big cats, wolves, wolf hybrids and other animals attacks on humans? The only exotic animal I see is just snakes so its sloppy argument.
 
Both videos were interesting and I thought he made alot of great valid points, but when it came to the all important question of, "are these animals getting into the wrong hands" i thought he was rather vague, and really offered no type of a soulution. He tried to make it sound like not that many are ending up in bad homes.
So the question i had all along, still remains......
How do you go about determining, who in the private sector is qualified to own these potential deadly felines?
 
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