Ive sold a few mbus and your right on the price. But then again even if the sit for awhile they always sell. Even fahakas arent that cheap and we couldnt keep em stocked enough
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That is true but puffers in general have a following and that doesn't exclude the MBU
when you refer to dogs in your post you speak of them as a whole but when it comes to the MBU it's specific.
To keep one from being imported is to remove them all from availability.
when you refer to dogs in your post you speak of them as a whole but when it comes to the MBU it's specific.
To keep one from being imported is to remove them all from availability.
There are many people that do not frequent or even come near a forum or even know what they buy, they just have fat pockets and get what they like.
I agree but you can try and help better what they will listen to.
as for the understock/overstocking thing. That goes two ways too... you can't compile all fish into one category cause each individual fish is different and should be approached as so, maybe similar but there's always something.
not judging you at all we just differ on opinions for fish keeping. To me I see my gsp as more of a puppy dog and most people just keep 1 dog. He greets me every time I come home by shooting up from wherever he was hunting to glass surf in-front of me and beg for food. He also loves to greet me in the morning and complain about the light being turned on late in the night, I find him super cute by himself and don't need anything else in his tank.
There are many people that do not frequent or even come near a forum or even know what they buy, they just have fat pockets and get what they like.
But most of those people after a few fish deaths give up on the hobby and so aren't long time fish keepers. Also in this economy how often is someone going to be able to shell out 200 dollars for a fish? Idk that many myself, I see most people downgrading what they got and except for a few people on the forum most members aren't posting new threads about new expensive fish b/c most people are broke right now.
"Sorry for the double post"
Also I feel kind of done debating. I'll end with I feel like there isn't enough information about its habitat conditions available and I feel there needs to be some well recorded data done to give a final answer to what kind of tank size these fish need.
I feel like the only way to finally end this debate is for multiple studies done in where the growth, diet, water conditions, tank size, supplements, number of wc's a week are meticulously recorded for a few years at several tank sizes to see where the actual minimum stands. I feel that a fish in captivity should be able to reach it's maximum length and for a mbu that seems to be about 30 inches for males and about 25 (I think) for females and so those would have to be the goal in length and color can be recorded among the studies to establish what a healthy adult mbu's color should look like.
But most of those people after a few fish deaths give up on the hobby and so aren't long time fish keepers. Also in this economy how often is someone going to be able to shell out 200 dollars for a fish? Idk that many myself, I see most people downgrading what they got and except for a few people on the forum most members aren't posting new threads about new expensive fish b/c most people are broke right now.
"Sorry for the double post"
That's where you are mistaken, as rgonzales has stated there are many people out there that just enjoy fishkeeping and don't partake in forums. They have money to blow and its no sweat off their backs.
Knowing several personally, there are many long time fish keepers that have never touched a forum and have kept their fish for decades at a time.
I know of a few that are keeping monster fish that have outgrown their tanks 10yrs ago and to this day are still running undergravel filters and the fish still swim and eat like according to their size even though the tank is too small.
Long before massive filtration ugf and sponge filters did the job and did it well and I'm sure a lot of the ancient fish didn't know the difference.
As to the "puppy dog" charcteristics of your fish, I know of an old lady that has a 30g with two giant pacus that do the same, also another person that has three giant eating size gouramis that follow them and even come to the surface to be held and pet which are in a 100g ran off a ugf.
That again is still a small number of people and doesn't make up a large percent of the population. They are few and far between, again especially in this economy where everyone is broke people don't want to take as many risks.
people are broke
http://money.cnn.com/2012/04/12/news/economy/jobless-claims/index.htm?iid=SF_E_River
people are broke
http://money.cnn.com/2012/04/12/news/economy/jobless-claims/index.htm?iid=SF_E_River
I also know that my fish will reach their full size which should be a general goal of fish keepers. You are keeping a animal outside of nature where they have to fear predation and so the animal should live longer then their wild cousins
