the most ferocious freshwater fish
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THE THREAD STARTS OF TALKING ABOUT THE MOST AGGRESIVE P'S THE ANSWER IS PYGO'S ANY KIND I HAVE A 240 GALLON WITH 12 CARIBES IN IT AND WHEN THE LEAD SCOUT WHANTS TO ATTACK ANY THING WILL GET EATEN, HOWEVER PIRANHAS ARE SKITTISH ONE ON ONE TOO ME MOST AGGRESSIVE CICHLIDS WILL HAVE THEM FACING THE CORNER ON TIME OUT. TO ME THE MOST AGGRESSIVE SNGLE PIRANHA THAT I EVER OWNED WAS A SERRASALMUS GIBBUS
Serrasalmus brandtii..
If you havent had 1.. you want 1.. and if you have 1.. you want mine.. : )
Has killed 4 equal size ternnetzi.. and a rhombeus 6 inches bigger then him.. countless wolf fish.. His list is looooonnnngggggg.. your pygos will get it 1 after the other : )
If you havent had 1.. you want 1.. and if you have 1.. you want mine.. : )
Has killed 4 equal size ternnetzi.. and a rhombeus 6 inches bigger then him.. countless wolf fish.. His list is looooonnnngggggg.. your pygos will get it 1 after the other : )
cepon3;2918238; said:
mate, I've looked at the picture on the web; Serrasalmus looks awesome, makes me wanna have it, but I dunno If I could get Serrasalmus in my country, even the black piranhas are so hard to find. There are many monster fishes being sold in the market over here, with a very very cheap price, but if you look for a typical one, the chance is that it will take a very long time, but I will try to find them anyway,
cheers
man I enjoy having a fish that has a little edge to it, but I just don't share the same desire for unbridled carnage as you guys. It really makes me wonder why I got into piranhas to begin with. To me it's interesting to keep a fish with such an overblown predatory drive, but I think threads like this one are....a little lame.
BRANDTII HAVE NOTHING ON A GIBBUS DUDE I HAD A BRANDTI IN A TANK BY ITSELF FROM GEORGE FEAR IT STOP GROWING AT 8 INCHES AND WOULD ONLY ATTACK FROM BEHIND ANY FISH THAT WOULD FRONT HIM HE WOULD SWIM AWAY ITS A RARE FISH DONT GET ME WRONG BUT ITS NOTHING LIKE A GIBBUS, AND THOSE FOUR TERNETZI'S I GARUNTEE THEY WERENT IN THE TANK FIRST AND THEN YOU PUT THE BRANDTI IN BECAUZ IF SO YOUR LIEING WHEN YOU PUT P'S IN A TANK WHEN FISH ARE ALREADY IN THERE THIER SKITTISH FIRST OF ALL THOSE FOUR TERNS WOULD RIP YOUR BRANDTI, PLUS MY CARIBES WOULD DEVOUR HIM IN MY 240 , I GIVE MAYBE 20 MIN TOPS LMFAO
I haven't had a chance to keep any caribe's yet but I heard that as far as shoaling P's they can be the most aggressive, because piraya's take a little bit longer to lose their skittishness because caribe's mature faster. So I guess short term your best bet is caribe's, long term definitely piraya's. I had an elong when I used to live in Jersey, and honestly he was a wuss (always hiding in the plants and driftwood, surprised to find out their an ambush predator, they lurk and dash out at food once you drop it in there), but a friend of mine had an elong that would charge you if you came near the tank. Kept rbp's before which were really skittish, but were very predatory towards anything in the tank.
Since you plan on putting them in a pond personally I'd go with a shoal (caribe's or piraya's), you may get bored with a solitary fish. You can find them in your country, you'll just have to go straight to an importer rather than an lfs, but you just have to be willing to pay 3x the price elsewhere. BTW, every piranha is aggressive if it's hungry ^_^ sometimes I think my friend used to starve his elong in advance if he knew anyone was coming over just for the theatrics, never tried that stunt with my elong though coz I just didn't see the point. coz if it really had that kind of bad attitude off top I wouldn't need to starve it to witness it.
Since you plan on putting them in a pond personally I'd go with a shoal (caribe's or piraya's), you may get bored with a solitary fish. You can find them in your country, you'll just have to go straight to an importer rather than an lfs, but you just have to be willing to pay 3x the price elsewhere. BTW, every piranha is aggressive if it's hungry ^_^ sometimes I think my friend used to starve his elong in advance if he knew anyone was coming over just for the theatrics, never tried that stunt with my elong though coz I just didn't see the point. coz if it really had that kind of bad attitude off top I wouldn't need to starve it to witness it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7F36WtMXZM
To CaribeMob..
The point of me putting them together was not so that they kill eachother, i was experimenting on what may work as a possible cohab.. The fish were introduced to the tank at the same time and within mintutes the ternetzi were all but finished.. It didnt work out the way i had hoped.. My fish is a killer and i wont be putting him in with anything other then possible mates.. I will not argue with you on if my fish would kill yours because quite frankly it doesnt matter.. In my opinion, and my opinion is a very well versed one, The brandtii or atleast my brandtii, is the most aggressive piranha i have ever seen.. I am far from new at keeping piranha and have kept many species.. And like you stated earlier there is obviously strength in numbers.. but single pygos lack the quickness that serrasalmus species rely on to survive.. When fish confront eachother in the aquarium the fight has to do with only 1 thing, the will of the fish to win.. You destroy the fishes will to fight and the fight is over.. Countless cichlid cohabs have cemented this theory.. Two fish only fight when they think that they can win, if not the weaker one moves away or gets killed.. which is where it comes down to the actual fish, if your fish or my fish or any other fish got its fins ripped off, they usually will dart out of there to avoid death.. Seeing that serrasalmus are fin nippers and scale eaters in the wild this is what they will do naturally..Thus putting them at a natural advantage over the clumbsier broad faced pygo.. I am also well aware of how nasty gibbus can be but in my book, the brandtii takes the cake hands down..
To CaribeMob..
The point of me putting them together was not so that they kill eachother, i was experimenting on what may work as a possible cohab.. The fish were introduced to the tank at the same time and within mintutes the ternetzi were all but finished.. It didnt work out the way i had hoped.. My fish is a killer and i wont be putting him in with anything other then possible mates.. I will not argue with you on if my fish would kill yours because quite frankly it doesnt matter.. In my opinion, and my opinion is a very well versed one, The brandtii or atleast my brandtii, is the most aggressive piranha i have ever seen.. I am far from new at keeping piranha and have kept many species.. And like you stated earlier there is obviously strength in numbers.. but single pygos lack the quickness that serrasalmus species rely on to survive.. When fish confront eachother in the aquarium the fight has to do with only 1 thing, the will of the fish to win.. You destroy the fishes will to fight and the fight is over.. Countless cichlid cohabs have cemented this theory.. Two fish only fight when they think that they can win, if not the weaker one moves away or gets killed.. which is where it comes down to the actual fish, if your fish or my fish or any other fish got its fins ripped off, they usually will dart out of there to avoid death.. Seeing that serrasalmus are fin nippers and scale eaters in the wild this is what they will do naturally..Thus putting them at a natural advantage over the clumbsier broad faced pygo.. I am also well aware of how nasty gibbus can be but in my book, the brandtii takes the cake hands down..
