The Ohio situation. Read- this may effect us all
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Even normal hobbists can make a difference in conservation. For example the iguana farms that provide the pet trade with cheap baby igs, part of their contract with cites that allows them to continue with their activity, includes envioromental education and releasing back into the wild part of their production of baby igs. Thanks to this effort green iguanas are florishing in many Central and South American countries where they were once endangered just a few decades ago. That is the primary reason why Im not against iguana farming despiste the fact that so many iguanas endup neglected, abandoned, etc. Each and every person that brough one, contributed so more iguanas are produced are released back to its home land. The price is paid by the ones that are exported and dont endup in a good place. I gess some big inpruvement needs to be made in the terms of how this animals are treated in there import countries. The full cicle would come when there would be no more need to ranch green igs or an alternative species was found, and keepers would need to breed green igs locally in order to keep them in the hobby.
You miss the point, the underlying principle of pet keeping is the same for all pet keeping. Meaning that your pleasure is super-seeded by the needs of the animal in question. Oh I need to clean my fish tank else my fish will suffer, guess I not going out on Friday. All animals have different requirements. The standards for keeping cats is different from dogs is different from fish is different from birds. Even within fish the demand of species for both tank size filtration upkeep and diet can vary DRAMATICALLY. The details are always different but the center principle of GOOD HUSBANDRY is identical.
As for my ridiculous knife comparison it was my disrespectful reaction to your baseless response. Your statement was relatively without merit so I gave a similar remark to show in contrast how silly your statement was.
Yes lions can kill you, so do many things in the natural world and yet many of those things have been integrated into our life. Take the inherent danger of flying, should anything go wrong you are screwed, how many people have survived a commercial jet plane crash on land ever??? Yet we consider flying safe because we have so many precautions built up around it. Flying for the most part in our life is a novelty. I don't argue flying is bad because a plane could crash on my house any day. Private citizens still own and fly planes and I have no issue with that. There is nothing special in a zoo its run by people who like every one else make mistakes. You sight that people need to be trained etc. I would agree with you. Dangerous animals need to have some level of government oversight obviously this is the prevailing POV for the first several pages of this thread.
We are speaking against banning animals, banning is drawing a line in the sand that gets pushed around and regulated by bodies and individuals who have less of an idea what they are doing than that guy who killed himself and let his animals loose. In all this conversation he killed himself with a gun but no one wants to ban guns, lol. He was probably drunk, no one wants to ban alcohol. Why??? because banning only effects good law abiding citizens who where doing it right in the first place.
Have you read the thread. You talk about space, there are several large exotic animal reserves on ranches in Texas. I agree not every american has the ability to own and keep a lion but that doesn't mean no american should.
yeah bderick67 is missing this conversation entirely. I sometimes feel like some individuals would be happier to see animals go extinct than to be properly cared for pets or even just kept in a private reserve.
My exposure to keeping north american box turtles like the eastern that is protect was exclusively as rehab growing up. Find one that had been damaged by a plow or a car on the road and patch the shell and bring it back from the brink. This is a perfect example of that, with intention of releasing them we always kept them on their hibernation cycle and in the spring some would mate and lay eggs. We hatched 2 clutches of eggs. Hows that for helping out. Non of those became pets!
Whilst your first statement is definitely true, your second statement reeks of emotion judgement. Their basis is traditional values of only keeping "pets". On the other hand, you are making the excuse that captive conservation is prominent today for the majority. Apart from the organisations Coura pointed out, I doubt it. Why else do we have people getting exotics from petco?
