thick or thin ???

[Dragon Hunter]

you say the tail stripe ID is rubbish but have you ever seen a IT with ST tail stripes

it may not be 100% but its a good start point look at the tail it will be 100% right with AT

i think if you found a IT with ST tail stripes most people would say ST

thats what i said but aparantly there are many IT's with ST tails according to this vendor. I haven seen 1 yet.

there are alot of indo dats with the "wide bar" tail stripes

 

[milkman407]

thats what i said but aparantly there are many IT's with ST tails according to this vendor. I haven seen 1 yet.

tail stripe has nothing to do with choosing if its a IT or a ST

 

[Dragon Hunter]

tail stripe has nothing to do with choosing if its a IT or a ST

its not the only factor but it's a start. Thats all we are saying. Ive had widebars with indo looking tails. but never had a IT with ST tails. people are saying it exist and i just havent seen it yet. Bro trust me I know my Dats remember when u were beggin me to sell u some. Dont lecture me mang

 

[T1KARMANN]

tail stripe has nothing to do with choosing if its a IT or a ST

can you show me a IT with perfect IT body stripes IT body shape but ST tail stripe

i dont think i have seen 1

have you seen a AT or NGT with ST tail stripes

how is the tail ID rubbish if the only thing thats not 100% right is IT or ST all the others are right

 

[DiXoN]

i am under the impression that the Chao Phraya ST's are now extint along with pretty much ST's all over Thailand.
i have read literature from Thailand and even stuck this info in this forum which shows government breeding projects for commercial fish which does not include ST's although this was a couple of years old.

as for the fish in the pics its probably a thin bar but as said the pics are poor.

 

[M|L]

you say the tail stripe ID is rubbish but have you ever seen a IT with ST tail stripes

it may not be 100% but its a good start point look at the tail it will be 100% right with AT

i think if you found a IT with ST tail stripes most people would say ST

that's a very interesting point, but since true widebar dats can have quite a variation of tail stripes, that alone makes identification irrelevant based on tail stripes alone. and that's the problem, people look at the tail and immediately dismisses a true widebar as an indonesian.

so, what looks like an indonesian may in fact be a true widebar. and since that similarity exists, an inexperienced person could mistaken an indonesian that looks like a widebar as a true widebar because it could have an indonesian dat's tail stripe.

and if you can confuse a silver dat for any other dat, then you really need help. but, if you want to say the tail stripe works for silver dats, fine. but it simply doesn't work with widebars.

 

[T1KARMANN]

that's a very interesting point, but since true widebar dats can have quite a variation of tail stripes, that alone makes identification irrelevant based on tail stripes alone. and that's the problem, people look at the tail and immediately dismisses a true widebar as an indonesian.

so, what looks like an indonesian may in fact be a true widebar. and since that similarity exists, an inexperienced person could mistaken an indonesian that looks like a widebar as a true widebar because it could have an indonesian dat's tail stripe.

and if you can confuse a silver dat for any other dat, then you really need help. but, if you want to say the tail stripe works for silver dats, fine. but it simply doesn't work with widebars.

so with the tail stripe ID chart NTT NGT AT thart hardly makes it rubbish

i have seen many tigers but never a IT with ST tail so what that tells me is if it has ST tail stripes then it is ST

if it looks like a ST but has IT tail stripes then their is a chance it could be IT so their fore i wouldnt pay ST money for it

 

[M|L]

but what I'm trying to say is, THERE'S NO SUCH THING as a "widebar tail stripe" since true widebars can have a variety of tail stripes. and since this is pretty much what's confusing everyone, people refers to the chart when figuring out if it's a ST or IT and the tail stripe chart simply doesn't work. same goes for thinbars, as they can have a variety of tail stripes as well!

so, in the end, the tail stripe chart is only good for silver dats and new guinea dats, but again, no one should have any problems identifying them even without the tail stripe as reference.

so my point stands that the chart DOESN'T WORK.

 

[All-Happy]

but what I'm trying to say is, THERE'S NO SUCH THING as a "widebar tail stripe" since true widebars can have a variety of tail stripes.

is it true that only widebars have a dot on one or both sides near the tail?

 

[M|L]

is it true that only widebars have a dot on one or both sides near the tail?

wait, what?! are you trying to be sarcastic?