throwing fish on beach
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Oh brother you are taking it to the extreme. the man has clearly broken the law. i dont know if raping is punishable by death or not but it seems like yes 5 HUMAN lives are more valid then a criminal. but i cant judge. its really hard to argue with a nonchristian. its not about the dog its about the human lives.Druu;2429701; said:
i wouldnt chose either to die.
but this isnt about five lives this is a bought killing a man cuz he hurt a fish that is stupid.
I think it should be illegal. I see a lot of people on the piers here catch saltwater catfish and leave them on the piers to die. I'd go out there during the summer and see a few dead ones laying there each time I went. That hurt me to see.
Passionate 4 pikes;2434238; said:
Dog/rapist. Fish/fisherman. You wouldn't chose either to die? The fisherman was not that kind.
i think the killing the fisherman discussion is getting a bit off track, can we stop before a mod comes in and starts deleting posts
In Maryland, I've seen folks throw fish they caught in the surf up on the beach, but they all said they planned on eating them. I can't say I see a big problem with that, but growing up being a hunter/fisherman who will catch/kill animals to eat, I have a different view on that.
As far as non-native species go, I have to agree with killing them as you pull them out. In Maryland, three of the most popular non-natives are:
1. The Snakehead
As we all know, this started from someone releasing an aquarium raised fish and so on and so forth. These fish are direct threats to the native animals. IMO, all snakeheads caught wild in the State of MD should be killed to preserve the Chesapeake Bay.
2. Chinese Green Crab
These guys are prevalent in the coastal bays of MD. They were originally sold as a bait for saltwater fishing, and eventually ended up being released. Of course there are no known natural predators for these guys in MD. If you know anything about the Blue Crab, you'll know it's numbers are incredibly low in general, and that they do move to saltwater for overwintering. With these green crabs outcompeting the blue crabs for food, they're damaging an already depleted population of animals. If you've ever eaten blue crab or you're from the state of MD you'll understand my attachment to these animals. Whenever I catch a green crab, I'm sure to kill it and feed it to the seagulls.
3. Eurasian Watermilfoil
This is a species of submerged aquatic vegetation that was introduced to the Bay in the Late 70's to early 80's. This species has suffocated some of the native species of bay grasses, including eel grass (Vallisneria americana) You may recognize this species of live plant, I do believe it makes it's way into the aquarium trade from time to time. The Chesapeake Bay lies along the Atlantic Flyway, which is the migratory route for millions of species of waterfowl every year. Several of these birds, Canvasbacks, Redheads, Bluebills and others, sustained for years on the eel grass. Now that the eel grass is gone, many of these birds have found different routes or have had to switch food sources. The populations have suffered greatly, Canvasbacks especially, which were, at one time, considered a mainstay along the Chesapeake Bay, are rarely seen anymore.
I know it was lengthy, but I definitely cannot agree with releasing any types of non-native species that you may catch.
As far as non-native species go, I have to agree with killing them as you pull them out. In Maryland, three of the most popular non-natives are:
1. The Snakehead
As we all know, this started from someone releasing an aquarium raised fish and so on and so forth. These fish are direct threats to the native animals. IMO, all snakeheads caught wild in the State of MD should be killed to preserve the Chesapeake Bay.
2. Chinese Green Crab
These guys are prevalent in the coastal bays of MD. They were originally sold as a bait for saltwater fishing, and eventually ended up being released. Of course there are no known natural predators for these guys in MD. If you know anything about the Blue Crab, you'll know it's numbers are incredibly low in general, and that they do move to saltwater for overwintering. With these green crabs outcompeting the blue crabs for food, they're damaging an already depleted population of animals. If you've ever eaten blue crab or you're from the state of MD you'll understand my attachment to these animals. Whenever I catch a green crab, I'm sure to kill it and feed it to the seagulls.
3. Eurasian Watermilfoil
This is a species of submerged aquatic vegetation that was introduced to the Bay in the Late 70's to early 80's. This species has suffocated some of the native species of bay grasses, including eel grass (Vallisneria americana) You may recognize this species of live plant, I do believe it makes it's way into the aquarium trade from time to time. The Chesapeake Bay lies along the Atlantic Flyway, which is the migratory route for millions of species of waterfowl every year. Several of these birds, Canvasbacks, Redheads, Bluebills and others, sustained for years on the eel grass. Now that the eel grass is gone, many of these birds have found different routes or have had to switch food sources. The populations have suffered greatly, Canvasbacks especially, which were, at one time, considered a mainstay along the Chesapeake Bay, are rarely seen anymore.
I know it was lengthy, but I definitely cannot agree with releasing any types of non-native species that you may catch.
Ship, for the most part I agree with you. My only objection is to throwing fish on the shore to die and rot because they're an undesirable species to catch. I concur on the point that invasive species need to be controlled. What's up with the blue crab info- they're always in salt water, what do you mean with the moving to salt for winter? As for green crabs, they do get their numbers thinned out by blackfish (tautog).
Undesirable species to catch and invasive species are different in my book. Agreed that if I'm out fishing for flounder and I catch a sea robin, I'm going to throw the sea robin back, not on the shore. Same instance, but I catch a snakehead, he's going to die.
As for the Blue Crab, They do live in salt water also, but the majority of the species moves south in the winter to bury in the sand, closer to salt water, but will move back up into the brackish waters in the spring through the summer to spawn and slough out of their shells. The grass beds in the shallow, more brackish waters, provide the cover to allow the crab's shells to harden back up.
Tog do eat the green crabs, thats mainly what the crabs were brought over and used for, tog bait. However, before the green crab was introduced, the tog were feeding on other, native populations of animals. It is quite possible that the tog moved on, and feed more on green crabs in this area now, but that still leaves an uncontrolled population of a native species, which is still a problem. Just because the non-native species doesn't directly compete the native species, doesn't mean that it isn't a problem.
As for the Blue Crab, They do live in salt water also, but the majority of the species moves south in the winter to bury in the sand, closer to salt water, but will move back up into the brackish waters in the spring through the summer to spawn and slough out of their shells. The grass beds in the shallow, more brackish waters, provide the cover to allow the crab's shells to harden back up.
Tog do eat the green crabs, thats mainly what the crabs were brought over and used for, tog bait. However, before the green crab was introduced, the tog were feeding on other, native populations of animals. It is quite possible that the tog moved on, and feed more on green crabs in this area now, but that still leaves an uncontrolled population of a native species, which is still a problem. Just because the non-native species doesn't directly compete the native species, doesn't mean that it isn't a problem.
