Tigrinus Catfish in 180?

[T1KARMANN]

Tigs don't get more sensitive the big they get I find they get stronger

As for the lump being from lake of ox I also don't find that true as my tanks have always had plenty of ox in my tank just look back at any of my old videos

As for not defrosting MP right I always throw mine in still frozen and they are defrosted by the time they hit the tank base

As for temp mine is always at 86-88 and I have not seen the lump at even higher temp in the summer

So now explain the puffy swollen look the small tigs get when feeding MP just before they die

 

[123456]

I wonder how pissed the OP is that his thread got derailed into an arguement.

I think OP got the answer to his question in the first couple of pages

How would he be pissed when he can learn a lot of information regarding what to feed his new tig? How could it be a derail, when it was discussing on what to feed a tig?

+1

 

[RD.]

My apologies to the forum, taksan did in fact state;

Most Tig's do not die in captivity...they are killed by morons who don't have a clue.

Hopefully I got it correct this time.



T1 ...... once again you are contradicting yourself.

As for the lump being from lake of ox I also don't find that true as my tanks have always had plenty of ox in my tank just look back at any of my old videos

post #25

After losing the 4 I changed a few things added lots more air and flow to the tank and stopped feeding shrimp until the tig reached 12 inch I have not lost a tig since and grown 2 tigs from 4 inch to 25 inch + the one I have now is one of the 2 and I have had it for over 4 years

post #42

Most of the small tigs that die are unexplained deaths which I was having with mine so I only changed 3 things and have not had any problems since now I don't know which one of the 3 things I changed stopped the deaths but I'm convicts it was one feeding MP to little air and not enough flow

From my experience, the lump you mentioned was not from MP. It's from lack of oxygen, poor water condition. It happened to me and a few member here, most of the time is during summer, when our tank water temp can raise as high as 98F without a heater in the tank. As we all know, high temp = low dissolved oxygen.

Anyone who keeps tig knows that the bigger they get, the more sensitive they are. Big tig requires high flow, a lot of dissolved oxygen

Don't blame the MP... Some MP, especially the one in bag, comes with salt and preservative chemical. Fish doesn't digest those well... Also, there could be mistake made by fish keeper when defrosting shrimp, and it get contaminated before feeding it to your fish, end up poison the fish. If you want to blame, blame the fish keeper himself or herself.

Thanks for adding to this discussion, jlnguyen74.

 

[T1KARMANN]

You love that qutoe tab don't you

You can look at my old videos and see lots of ox this was after I added lots of ox more flow and stopped feeding MP

As I stated many times I was unsure what was killing my tigs as I changed the 3 things at once and never changed anything back as I was unsure why I was losing them

Even before the use of the big internal filters I always had big air stones

I also said that I have seen tigs die in other peoples tanks that had plenty of flow and air but the tig still got the lump and died due to just feeding MP

It seams to me you don't read everything and just quote the bits that suit you

I have said this a few times now if you feel comftable and can tell which MP are safe and which are not feel free to carry on feeding it to small tigs please feel free to quote me on this as many times as you like

 

[jlnguyen74]

Tigs don't get more sensitive the big they get I find they get stronger

As for the lump being from lake of ox I also don't find that true as my tanks have always had plenty of ox in my tank just look back at any of my old videos

As for not defrosting MP right I always throw mine in still frozen and they are defrosted by the time they hit the tank base

As for temp mine is always at 86-88 and I have not seen the lump at even higher temp in the summer

So now explain the puffy swollen look the small tigs get when feeding MP just before they die

Without witness anything that you said, and going by your words, the only explaination I can offer is you're suck at raising small tig!
BTW, since you throw your MP that's still frozen in the tank, that could be the reason. All the salt and preservation chemical in the MP just get defrosted straight into your tank, plus your fish may eat MP that was not completely defrosted. Imagine a fish that requires warm water, with an ice cube in its stomach... Who knows what internal bacteria that ice cube will trigger.
I'm on the other hand, defrost them in a bowl, then throw away the water, wash them again, before peel of the exoskelleton, and feed them to my fish.

 

[T1KARMANN]

It's that stalker again

Do you like following me around or something

 

[shamrock]

Without witness anything that you said, and going by your words, the only explaination I can offer is you're suck at raising small tig!
BTW, since you throw your MP that's still frozen in the tank, that could be the reason. All the salt and preservation chemical in the MP just get defrosted straight into your tank, plus your fish may eat MP that was not completely defrosted. Imagine a fish that requires warm water, with an ice cube in its stomach... Who knows what internal bacteria that ice cube will trigger.
I'm on the other hand, defrost them in a bowl, then throw away the water, wash them again, before peel of the exoskelleton, and feed them to my fish.

You know your right never thought of that-good thing I read your post.
Been lazy past week and I haven't been defrosting my fishes shrimp or tilapia-but now that youv'e explained it I'll go back-Thanks!

 

[T1KARMANN]

Without witness anything that you said, and going by your words, the only explaination I can offer is you're suck at raising small tig!
BTW, since you throw your MP that's still frozen in the tank, that could be the reason. All the salt and preservation chemical in the MP just get defrosted straight into your tank, plus your fish may eat MP that was not completely defrosted. Imagine a fish that requires warm water, with an ice cube in its stomach... Who knows what internal bacteria that ice cube will trigger.
I'm on the other hand, defrost them in a bowl, then throw away the water, wash them again, before peel of the exoskelleton, and feed them to my fish.

The way you are following me around you must keep the exact same fish as me aro rays tigers tigs

If you don't keep the same fish as me I'm beginning to wonder why you are finding and posting in every thread I post in you must be a stalker

Nothing wrong with not defrosting shrimp before feeding as it is fully defrosted before it hits the tank base if it wasn't defrosted it would float much like ice cubes do when you put them in a drink

It seams to me that you would disagree with everything I say or go running of to mike telling him what I have said

I have been throwing in all frozen foods frozen for years with no problems so do many other people

Perhaps if someone else had said they throw food in frozen you wouldn't have even commented on it

Tell you what you don't comment on anything I say or go running off to mike and I will do the same on you posts the world will then be a happy place

 

[jlnguyen74]

The way you are following me around you must keep the exact same fish as me aro rays tigers tigs

If you don't keep the same fish as me I'm beginning to wonder why you are finding and posting in every thread I post in you must be a stalker

Nothing wrong with not defrosting shrimp before feeding as it is fully defrosted before it hits the tank base if it wasn't defrosted it would float much like ice cubes do when you put them in a drink

It seams to me that you would disagree with everything I say or go running of to mike telling him what I have said

I have been throwing in all frozen foods frozen for years with no problems so do many other people

Perhaps if someone else had said they throw food in frozen you wouldn't have even commented on it

Tell you what you don't comment on anything I say or go running off to mike and I will do the same on you posts the world will then be a happy place

The world will be a happy place if you refrain from misinforming with your narrow mind assumption. Do I follow you around? Do I run off to Mike? Your assumption that Mike doesn't go to datnoid section, and thought that you can posted against him have made a fool out of yourself, haven't it? You lost four tig, and you said "no problem?" Is this your best way to defense yourself when it's pointed out your lack of knowledge or using common sense? You think just because the shrimp is not floating as an ice cube then it's completely thawed? You must forgot the important difference between an ice cube and a frozen shrimp is that an ice cube is mainly frozen water, while frozen shrimp is mainly frozen meat with small amount of frozen water. Go do your own experiment, but a frozen shrimp in a glass of water and see if it's float like an ice cube.
Tell you what, from where I live, it's a free country, so feel free to make a fool out of yourself.

 

[jlnguyen74]

Tigs don't get more sensitive the big they get I find they get stronger

As for the lump being from lake of ox I also don't find that true as my tanks have always had plenty of ox in my tank just look back at any of my old videos

As for not defrosting MP right I always throw mine in still frozen and they are defrosted by the time they hit the tank base

As for temp mine is always at 86-88 and I have not seen the lump at even higher temp in the summer

So now explain the puffy swollen look the small tigs get when feeding MP just before they die

You know, this probably the best explanation... Just follow your own advice

IT WAS YOUR FAULT THE TIG DIED NO ONE ELSE YOURS

THATS THE END OF IT