To all the people who have bare bottom tanks

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I think both ways are fine ,it's what you like.
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Surely it what the fish likes/prefers?

OMG, IMO this is, i mite be being a bit of a prat here but i tend to keep my fish to the best of my ability for them to be happy as they would in the wild, i have never seen a sea bed or river bed with a glass botom.

sorry but i thought that the big fish keepers gave a s**t about the fish we look after, forget the folk that get the monster fish with small tanks with no thought of the size they grow but....

i like to try the best for my fish.

Ibelieve that sand is natural for their safety defences and for their enrichment of foraging for food, it has nothing to do with bacteria.


Btw....if the sand is constantly turned over (by the rays) that would actually be better for beneficial bacteria...think fluidized bed BUT filtration is not the issue here.


Rays will live on bare bottom, just do not agree with it IMO
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yep:headbang2
 
Bearing in mind what rays in nature spend their time doing -at least we should offer them some smaller rocks, gravel, smaller pieces of roots etc. to move around.
 
In my experience, rays seem just as happy in a bare bottom tank as they would in sand. How do I know? Because they told me, I talk to my fish, and they talk to me. I'm a fish whisperer too :screwy:
 
i originally had my rays in sand for the first year of purchasing them. . . then went on to bare bottom after deciding that going barebottom would be better because rays poo like humans (its not a nice sight). so going barebottom was for me, a way of controlling it. when ever there is loads of poo . . syphon time!!
 
I personally like sand, i like to keep them in as natural of an environment as i can. The rays I've kept always like to bury themselves under the sand.

But then again, it's all preference. I've seen happy rays in barebottom tanks and tanks with sand.
 
my rays pay NO attention to substrate and could care less if there was sand. they are only focused on food and they know there is none in the sand

i choose bare bottom because i like the way it looks better
 
I agree that sand is not needed to keep a ray alive but I have no idea what my ray would do all day without it. He spends 75% of the day digging through and blowing sand around. I know it seems silly to think of a fish being bored but I think he would be bored without his sand ;)
 
johno27;4588686; said:
I agree that sand is not needed to keep a ray alive but I have no idea what my ray would do all day without it. He spends 75% of the day digging through and blowing sand around. I know it seems silly to think of a fish being bored but I think he would be bored without his sand ;)
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Agreed, mine loves to play in the bubbles, and that im not taking away from her lol in fact im adding more.
 
I do feel a tank with gravel is much more stable than one without. However, with adequate filtration, there is no reason why you can't run a successful bare tank either. I find rays most happy in a bare bottom tank. IMHO. One thing to consider, you guys ever get a new ray in and it poops out all kinds of gravel? Eating all that substrate can't be good for them at all.
 
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