transfering an arowana !!

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I didn't want to engage in this thread again after my last post as i do not wish to stir up any arguments and i believed i have made my points clear.

However something to add, it doesn't work this way. There is an official psychological name for what you mean (i have forgotten the term i'll update when i have found it). It's when people tend to put what they feel is right or the way human live on their pets. It certainly doesn't work this way. One example is that some people love dressing their dogs/cats up with clothes when the weather is cold. But this isn't actually something good as dogs/cats can regulate their body temperature well with their furs etc... letting them wear clothes might make them feel warmer than they should have.

Thank you.

P.A.NativesBPM said:
So how about I buy you and put you in a closet? Would you like that? You could move, but would you be happy?


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Ahh.. after my previous post i just did a google "putting human feelings on pets" and it showed up right away,

The word is Anthropomorphism.

Check it out,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthropomorphism

http://psychcentral.com/news/2010/03/01/why-do-we-anthropomorphize/11766.html

One example from another website,

"While a human feels they are comforting the dog, the dog sees it as a weakness, as you are not providing strong energy from which the dog can feed. If your dog has a traumatic experience and you show it affection during that time by trying to comfort it, rather than letting it work through the situation in its own mind and being a strong leader it can feed from, you leave it stuck in that state of mind. Later when your dog faces this traumatic situation again, when you comfort the dog, this intensifies the situation even more. You are creating the problem. Dogs do not see comfort and affection in the same way we humans see it. Dogs are always looking for a strong stable being to feed from."

http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/articles/humandog.htm
 
WTF does putting clothes on a dog have to do with keeping a fish in too small as space. If you want to make a comparison how about keeping a dog in a kennel. Nobody is talking about dressing up the fish with clothes, only keeping in a space smaller then where clothes are kept.

Plain and simple. Keeping a arowana of that size in a tank that small if fricking selfish and irreasponsable. Doesn't matter what kingdom or culture your from, its just common sense.
 
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WTF does putting clothes on a dog have to do with keeping a fish in too small as space. If you want to make a comparison how about keeping a dog in a kennel. Nobody is talking about dressing up the fish with clothes, only keeping in a space smaller then where clothes are kept.

Plain and simple. Keeping a arowana of that size in a tank that small if fricking selfish and irreasponsable. Doesn't matter what kingdom or culture your from, its just common sense.
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Agreed.

But vicara did make a good point that dressing up your fish won't improve their health. Thanks for that one Sherlock.


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first i'm human i think in complex way ... and its just a fish it can't think like me so i will not be happy but the arowana will be happy in my tank .. all what she need is to move and eat and a good water to live thats it doesn't need a whole ocean in my house to live in it

and i can't build any big tank there is no room for it and i'm only 19 i'm in university there is no enough money for a 500gl tank so i'm sorry i will buy that arowana or that parroon shark there is no doubt about it
 
Jreeper said:
first i'm human i think in complex way ... and its just a fish it can't think like me so i will not be happy but the arowana will be happy in my tank .. all what she need is to move and eat and a good water to live thats it doesn't need a whole ocean in my house to live in it

and i can't build any big tank there is no room for it and i'm only 19 i'm in university there is no enough money for a 500gl tank so i'm sorry i will buy that arowana or that parroon shark there is no doubt about it
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You have no business being on this forum.

Frankly, I'm disgusted with you.


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Jreeper said:
first i'm human i think in complex way ... and its just a fish it can't think like me so i will not be happy but the arowana will be happy in my tank .. all what she need is to move and eat and a good water to live thats it doesn't need a whole ocean in my house to live in it

and i can't build any big tank there is no room for it and i'm only 19 i'm in university there is no enough money for a 500gl tank so i'm sorry i will buy that arowana or that parroon shark there is no doubt about it
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don't use age. I'm 16 and im still trying to build a tank for my large species. "it's just a fish" :eek::screwy::banghead:

You should probably put a flame suit on :D:p:rolleyes::what:

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Vicara said:
I didn't want to engage in this thread again after my last post as i do not wish to stir up any arguments and i believed i have made my points clear.

However something to add, it doesn't work this way.

Thank you.
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How it works is a fish eats and creates waste which breaks down creating ammonia which is converted to nitrites then nitrates. The amount of waste created depends on the amount the fish is fed and is unrelated to the tank size, however the concentration of waste in the water does depend on the tank size. A 125G with similar maintenance will have approximately twice the concentration of nitrates as a 250 which will have twice the concentration of a 500 with the same stock and feeding. A 125 with a monster arowana will require far more WCs to keep the parameters at acceptable levels than a more appropriate sized tank.

How it also works is fish are mobile. The arowana will rub against the walls of the tank every time it turns around because the tank isn't as wide as the fish is long and the fish will turn around a lot because the tank is less than twice the length of the fish. Fish also sometimes respond to stimulus by attempting to flee which results in striking the walls in a small tank while the fish would likely not strike the wall in a larger tank. Both of these can cause injuries and physical stress resulting in general failure to thrive and decreased resistance to infection and illness.
 
Jreeper said:
first i'm human i think in complex way ... and its just a fish it can't think like me so i will not be happy but the arowana will be happy in my tank .. all what she need is to move and eat and a good water to live thats it doesn't need a whole ocean in my house to live in it

and i can't build any big tank there is no room for it and i'm only 19 i'm in university there is no enough money for a 500gl tank so i'm sorry i will buy that arowana or that parroon shark there is no doubt about it
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You're so dumb and irresponsible. I'm 14 and I have a 600 gallon so don't use your age as an excuse for torturing an animal.

How do you know the fish will be happy in you little tank? have you asked it?
 
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