Transfering RTG to New 180g Tank.

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Forget the 3 x ac110's

Better off with a wet/dry sump and or fx5, and 1 ac110 as a backup.
Try to use two filters for safety margin. arowanas are messy fish, so make sure whatever filtration you use, that it's up to the task. Pack as much bio media as you can into your filtration.

Are you going to go a bare bottom setup or gravel/sand ?
Do yourself a favour now and purchase a test kit for ammonia, nitrite, nitrate, 2 x jaegar 250-300w heaters
Arowanas are hardy fish, and can survive in different ph anywhere from about 6.0-7.8 if they are aclimatized properly. There are 2 parameters that most enthusiasts fail at maintaining healty asian arowanas that I consider the most important aspect for their wellbeing.

1. Keep good water parameters. That means after cycling NO Ammonia, NO nitrite, and as little as possible as nitrate. It is very difficult to have 0 nitrate if your water quality is in sync due to the beneficial bacteria breaking down the toxic ammonia and nitrite into nitrate. Nitrate is removed via water changes, at about 30% per week, but once your tank is established you will know when it's time to change water. With water changes, try not to do no more than 40-50% change in one go. With water changes it is better to have a seperate water container to pre treat your water with conditioner to remove chemicals in your tap water before it goes into the tank. Maintain good oxygenation in the tank. A current of water visibly breaking the surface of the water will surfice.

2. Keep stable water temperature. ideal water temp is between 27-29 degrees celcius (80-85F). Never let the temp in the tank fluctuate more than 3 degrees celcius in short period of time. If your heating is up to the task you will find that you will get less than 1 degree temp variation. You may also need to heat your pre treted water as well as not to temperature shock the fish.
 
rhodes_96;4195030; said:
Forget the 3 x ac110's

Better off with a wet/dry sump and or fx5, and 1 ac110 as a backup.
Try to use two filters for safety margin. arowanas are messy fish, so make sure whatever filtration you use, that it's up to the task. Pack as much bio media as you can into your filtration.

Are you going to go a bare bottom setup or gravel/sand ?
Do yourself a favour now and purchase a test kit for ammonia, nitrite, nitrate, 2 x jaegar 250-300w heaters
Arowanas are hardy fish, and can survive in different ph anywhere from about 6.0-7.8 if they are aclimatized properly. There are 2 parameters that most enthusiasts fail at maintaining healty asian arowanas that I consider the most important aspect for their wellbeing.

1. Keep good water parameters. That means after cycling NO Ammonia, NO nitrite, and as little as possible as nitrate. It is very difficult to have 0 nitrate if your water quality is in sync due to the beneficial bacteria breaking down the toxic ammonia and nitrite into nitrate. Nitrate is removed via water changes, at about 30% per week, but once your tank is established you will know when it's time to change water. With water changes, try not to do no more than 40-50% change in one go. With water changes it is better to have a seperate water container to pre treat your water with conditioner to remove chemicals in your tap water before it goes into the tank. Maintain good oxygenation in the tank. A current of water visibly breaking the surface of the water will surfice.

2. Keep stable water temperature. ideal water temp is between 27-29 degrees celcius (80-85F). Never let the temp in the tank fluctuate more than 3 degrees celcius in short period of time. If your heating is up to the task you will find that you will get less than 1 degree temp variation. You may also need to heat your pre treted water as well as not to temperature shock the fish.


Thanks for the detail Post I appreciate your help Rhodes =)

So you dont think 3 x AC110's would be good enough? I mean I dont mind the cleaning of the filters cause their easy. I have thought about SUMPS and the FX5 but I have no understanding of SUMP systems and it sounds like i have to spend a lot more to set it up buying a pump and maybe drilling the tank? something like that i've read... I looked at the FX5 and its like $350 but I do not want to dump that kinda money if i dont have too. So I know a LFS that can get me AC110's cheap so i looked up AC110 specs and they filter 500gph so 3 will be 1500gph divide that by 180g and you would get 8.3Times the tanks filtration per hour. I think that should be good enough. Only thing I have to complain is the 3 Filtration tubes sticking down in the background but I can live with that.

So yes I did pick up a Water parameter test kit last week and have been testing my water lately and I usually get the following results. I do usually 1x30%WC a week but lately due to my RTG being injured I've been doing 30%WC's approx.. 3to 4 days. The test results come out as the following Approximately... Before and after WC:

TEST DONE / BEFORE WC /AFTER WC
Ammonia / 0.25ppm / 0ppm
Nitrite / 0ppm / 0ppm
Nitrate / ~40ppm / ~20ppm
PH / ~7.6ppm / ~7.6ppm
PH High Test / 7.7ppm / 7.7ppm

The only question I have is are my nitrates high? cause I think so and I dont know if its normal being 40ppm since I do water changes regularly and the tank only houses my RTG no Tank mates. Lately my Tank has been super cloudy and I have no idea why... I think my filters are due for an entire clean up i guess... thats what I'm gonna do tonight is scrub it all down.

Let me know what you think Rhodes and Anybody else that knows a good answer.

Thanks
 
bro 0.25 ammonia is BAD
it should be 0
sounds like your ac110s arent even doing a good job in the 75
you need a large canister
you cant use 3 ac110s unless your doing WCs every 2 days
arowana are MESSY and u will need a canister
the best bang for your buck is the fx5
 
superleggera123;4195375; said:
bro 0.25 ammonia is BAD
it should be 0
sounds like your ac110s arent even doing a good job in the 75
you need a large canister
you cant use 3 ac110s unless your doing WCs every 2 days
arowana are MESSY and u will need a canister
the best bang for your buck is the fx5


Yah... I guess it should be 0ppm huh... Hmm.... the tanks been running for almost 3 months now. I usually just take out the sponges and rinse them out thouroughly till all the dark stuff comes out and all i get is clear water out of the sponges. Am I cleaning the sponges too much? and thorough?
 
sponge is not the issue
its lack of media
or many other things
i suggest
you just buy a canister soon so you can seed it asap
 
So i just did a Param. Test and the results are:

Ammonia 0ppm
PH 7.6+ppm
PH High ~7.8ppm
Nitrates ~10ppm

Its been 4 days since I change waters and i think things are normal now since I've been doing more wc's 2 times a week. But one thing is that the water in the tank is Super cloudy.... is this a Bacteria bloom?? or what is it?
 
Sumps are easy to set up Cliff and cheaper than canisters. You can make them out of plastic boxes. Have a look in the filtration threads. Seriously i have a 70gal sump on a 200 gal tank with a turn over of 9 per hour. I never have issues with water. In the future if you can afford a canister as well to polish the water you'll be able to drink the stuff!!
I looked for you, there are threads on how to make an outlet pipe without drilling your tank also.
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=311975
IMO you're setting up a new tank for your RTG, you've been having problems with your current set up.
With this one take your time and do it right, reap the rewards in the future. Taking your time is key to having a good set up. I wish I'd have taken longer TBH.
 
classic-chassis;4195502; said:
Sumps are easy to set up Cliff and cheaper than canisters. You can make them out of plastic boxes. Have a look in the filtration threads. Seriously i have a 70gal sump on a 200 gal tank with a turn over of 9 per hour. I never have issues with water. In the future if you can afford a canister as well to polish the water you'll be able to drink the stuff!!
I looked for you, there are threads on how to make an outlet pipe without drilling your tank also.
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=311975
IMO you're setting up a new tank for your RTG, you've been having problems with your current set up.
With this one take your time and do it right, reap the rewards in the future. Taking your time is key to having a good set up. I wish I'd have taken longer TBH.

ok. let me take a look here and check it out.

Thanks for the help Classic =)

oh BTW Do you know how to get rid of the Cloudiness in my tank righ tnow? I've been doing WC every 3 days and its still cloudy =(
 
Cliff.W.;4195535; said:
ok. let me take a look here and check it out.

Thanks for the help Classic =)

oh BTW Do you know how to get rid of the Cloudiness in my tank righ tnow? I've been doing WC every 3 days and its still cloudy =(
No because i've never had it. All i know is poor filtration and direct sunlight are the main causes of cloudy water.

If you sump is big enough you never need do hardy any substrate cleaning, just change the white filter cotton every few months and that's it!!
 
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