Trimac from Flowerhorn
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I've noticed one thing about hybrids most of them are a lot more aggressive than their pure counterparts. I wonder why ?
I'm guessing that many of the folks posting on here about how flowerhorns get their aggression from the red devil in them or from some of the other fish mixed in have never kept a true trimac. My little (not so little now, hitting 3.5-4") TUIC trimac's are constantly ticked off and ready to kill their reflection, the tank decor, and the little punk that looks like them on the other side of the divider 
They've been little killers since birth!
Anyway, has anyone checked out the red shock and red syn hybrids? I had never heard of them until recently but read about them on aquamojo's site. They're some pretty freaky looking hybrids! The colours are cool, but the hump's on them are so big they're disgusting!
They've been little killers since birth!Anyway, has anyone checked out the red shock and red syn hybrids? I had never heard of them until recently but read about them on aquamojo's site. They're some pretty freaky looking hybrids! The colours are cool, but the hump's on them are so big they're disgusting!
Flowerhorn, also called Luohan, is a breed of Cichlid. Flowerhorns are thought to arise from the man-made hybridization of a number of cichlid species, from South and Central America. Most notably flowerhorns include Cichlasoma trimaculatum and fishes from the Amphilophus citrinellus (red devil) complex. Flowerhorns first emerged for sale on the aquarium market in Malaysia in the late 1990s. As a probable intergeneric hybrid the fish lacks a specific Latin name. Flowerhorns are, unlike many other hybrids, fertile.
Other notable inclusions in the flowerhorns breeding are Cichlasoma festae and Vieja synspilus ('Redheaded' cichlid). Only the original breeders know exactly which species they crossbred to create the Flowerhorn cichlid. Given the vast amount of mixing, it is doubtful any recorded details of hybridisations exist.
There is a superstitious belief in the Far East that ownership of a Flowerhorn brings good fortune, especially in gambling. The hump that the adult male fish develops is said to resemble the Chinese god of longevity, and it is believed that the owners luck will grow if the fish's hump grows. The males are thus the most commercially valuable. Flowerhorns have distinctive markings on their sides, which can be interpreted as recognisable symbols. It is also noteworthy that the original species from which these cichlids were hybridised also display a number of these traits.
The market for Flowerhorns exhibited a classic boom and bust cycle of a craze, with rarity at the start and a huge oversupply at the end. The height of the craze was in 2003, and was mainly in Singapore.
Flowerhorns are hardy and very undemanding fish to keep in an aquarium. They do, however, require large aquariums due to their large size - they can grow up to 16 inches long. They are aggressive and carnivorous, and thus can only be kept with other large aggressive fish.
The end of the craze caused surplus stock to be dumped in the wild, where they survived and caused havoc in the riverine ecosystems, especially in Malaysia. Flowerhorns are regarded as a negative by most cichlid hobbyists for a number of reasons:
1. The demand for new and different breeds of hybrids such as the flowerhorn has lead to a number of cruel practices including tattooing of fish, removal of tails or eyes and intentional damage to the spine.
2. They make identification of similar cichlids difficult. The cichlids of genus Aulonocara are a good example of the potential problems associated with identification. The presence of many hybrid Aulonocara would make identification almost impossible.
3.Hybrid cichlids have the potential to be accidentally bred with pure species lines. This has already occurred in a number of cichlids commonly kept in the hobby, for example, Vieja synspilus or Amphilophus citrinellum.
4.The cichlid keeping hobby has responsibilities to the fish it is dedicated to in ecological terms. Although not currently standard practice, pure species may, in the future, be required for re-introduction to habitats currently under threat from urban development.
5. Some hybrid fish exhibit particularly deformed anatomical features which lead to troubles feeding, swimming and undertaking behaviour normal to these fishes. This is of considerable moral and ethical concern.
Other notable inclusions in the flowerhorns breeding are Cichlasoma festae and Vieja synspilus ('Redheaded' cichlid). Only the original breeders know exactly which species they crossbred to create the Flowerhorn cichlid. Given the vast amount of mixing, it is doubtful any recorded details of hybridisations exist.
There is a superstitious belief in the Far East that ownership of a Flowerhorn brings good fortune, especially in gambling. The hump that the adult male fish develops is said to resemble the Chinese god of longevity, and it is believed that the owners luck will grow if the fish's hump grows. The males are thus the most commercially valuable. Flowerhorns have distinctive markings on their sides, which can be interpreted as recognisable symbols. It is also noteworthy that the original species from which these cichlids were hybridised also display a number of these traits.
The market for Flowerhorns exhibited a classic boom and bust cycle of a craze, with rarity at the start and a huge oversupply at the end. The height of the craze was in 2003, and was mainly in Singapore.
Flowerhorns are hardy and very undemanding fish to keep in an aquarium. They do, however, require large aquariums due to their large size - they can grow up to 16 inches long. They are aggressive and carnivorous, and thus can only be kept with other large aggressive fish.
The end of the craze caused surplus stock to be dumped in the wild, where they survived and caused havoc in the riverine ecosystems, especially in Malaysia. Flowerhorns are regarded as a negative by most cichlid hobbyists for a number of reasons:
1. The demand for new and different breeds of hybrids such as the flowerhorn has lead to a number of cruel practices including tattooing of fish, removal of tails or eyes and intentional damage to the spine.
2. They make identification of similar cichlids difficult. The cichlids of genus Aulonocara are a good example of the potential problems associated with identification. The presence of many hybrid Aulonocara would make identification almost impossible.
3.Hybrid cichlids have the potential to be accidentally bred with pure species lines. This has already occurred in a number of cichlids commonly kept in the hobby, for example, Vieja synspilus or Amphilophus citrinellum.
4.The cichlid keeping hobby has responsibilities to the fish it is dedicated to in ecological terms. Although not currently standard practice, pure species may, in the future, be required for re-introduction to habitats currently under threat from urban development.
5. Some hybrid fish exhibit particularly deformed anatomical features which lead to troubles feeding, swimming and undertaking behaviour normal to these fishes. This is of considerable moral and ethical concern.
I AM TRYING TO MAKE MY OWN KIND OF FLOWER HORN I HAVE GOT A REDDEVIL X MIDAS THATS SPAWNING WITH A RED TERROR I HAVE A DOVII THAT IS TRYING TO SPAWN WITH A GREEN TERROR IF I HAVE SUCCES I WILL SPAWN THE COBINATION OF THESE 5 AND SEE WHAT I GET.
if that is true that hybreds are sterile how did the flowerhorn get here please explain. i dont want to waste time on a project that wont work but i am very interested in hybreds and would like to establish my own strain of cichlid.i woul like to learn about all the other mfk peoples attepts at this .
big train;486134; said:
they are about the only hybrid that can produce offspring.
how that came to be cannot be explained.
however
you cant combine two different species of cichlids and expect them to produce offspring capable of breeding.
its just not possible. They will all be sterile
and you will be wasting your time trying to make a new cichlid.
