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Brown trout can handle a slighly warm temperatures better than most trout. That's why the brown trout are thriving in degraded trout streams where the rainbow and brooks are unable to survive. Few degrees higher than their preferred temperatures can make a huge difference for their survivability.
I heard rainbows were the hardiest? Oh well guess not. Thanks for the advice btw :)
 
Brown trout can handle a slighly warm temperatures better than most trout. That's why the brown trout are thriving in degraded trout streams where the rainbow and brooks are unable to survive. Few degrees higher than their preferred temperatures can make a huge difference for their survivability.

That may be so, but I can only go by what I have personally kept, and what I know other people have kept. No problems with browns or rainbows in the ponds. My brown is about 15", another private pond close to me has numerous rainbows, all are 24"-30", and all thriving. No issues in the summer. I suspect oxygen levels more than temps are the issue in those streams.




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I also read that the survival of transporting trout goes like this rainbow>brook>brown.
 
That may be so, but I can only go by what I have personally kept, and what I know other people have kept. No problems with browns or rainbows in the ponds. My brown is about 15", another private pond close to me has numerous rainbows, all are 24"-30", and all thriving. No issues in the summer. I suspect oxygen levels more than temps are the issue in those streams.




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You have to considering that other people's ponds and the streams might NOT same as your pond. Also in my experiences in the field with Fisheries, it is more temperature and oxygen level combo than just an oxygen level issue. You do need cooler temperatures to keep trout happy, not to struggling to survive. The trout hatcheries I went have cold springs connect to the rearing ponds. Even in hottest days, the water is so cold as ice.
 
You have to considering that other people's ponds and the streams might NOT same as your pond. Also in my experiences in the field with Fisheries, it is more temperature and oxygen level combo than just an oxygen level issue. You do need cooler temperatures to keep trout happy, not to struggling to survive. The trout hatcheries I went have cold springs connect to the rearing ponds. Even in hottest days, the water is so cold as ice.

lol... Yeah, thanks for that. I am aware that everyone else's ponds might NOT be the same as mine. That is also true for every person on MFK that offers advice on any fish, either pond or aquarium.

It seems we agree that oxygen levels have a part to play. I'm not sure that 68 degrees will see them "struggle" to survive.

You have to consider a hatchery is a different kettle of fish, and NOT the same as a domestic pond. Having to sustain immense numbers in relatively small areas (compared to density of stocking in the wild), they have to maintain high oxygen levels (i'm not saying cooler isn't helpful btw), keeping a supply of cooler, oxygen rich water will aid that in a much cheaper way than having to airate the hatchery.




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Lol at above. But, seriously, what I am planning is a pond less water feature or a stream because they like the current. And honestly, some parts are way deeper than my local trout stream.
 
Lol at above. But, seriously, what I am planning is a pond less water feature or a stream because they like the current. And honestly, some parts are way deeper than my local trout stream.

Seriously, use a little common sense...a "stream" in your backyard will be a relatively small amount of water constantly circulating, while a natural stream is constantly receiving cold water from snowmelt and springs. But please try it, so that we can all say "we told you so" when they die from the heat.
 
lol... Yeah, thanks for that. I am aware that everyone else's ponds might NOT be the same as mine. That is also true for every person on MFK that offers advice on any fish, either pond or aquarium.

It seems we agree that oxygen levels have a part to play. I'm not sure that 68 degrees will see them "struggle" to survive.

You have to consider a hatchery is a different kettle of fish, and NOT the same as a domestic pond. Having to sustain immense numbers in relatively small areas (compared to density of stocking in the wild), they have to maintain high oxygen levels (i'm not saying cooler isn't helpful btw), keeping a supply of cooler, oxygen rich water will aid that in a much cheaper way than having to airate the hatchery.




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As I said, trout required BOTH oxygen and cool temperatures to live. Not just high oxygen levels to keep the trout alive. As I said it before, brown trout can handle slighly warm temperatures, unlike brookies and rainbows. Seems that you never been to the trout hatcheries before to see how it works. All trout hatcheries are required to have cool temperatures and high oxygen levels to keep their trout stock alive. Even in the crowded ponds, the water is still cold!
 
Seriously, use a little common sense...a "stream" in your backyard will be a relatively small amount of water constantly circulating, while a natural stream is constantly receiving cold water from snowmelt and springs. But please try it, so that we can all say "we told you so" when they die from the heat.

Go die in a hole.
 
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