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Hi there! I've been reading through the forum for a few weeks now and decided to finally register so I could get some advice on how to proceed with my big (well, big for me) tank.

I was given a 60 gallon setup complete with fish by a friend who was moving away to college and wanted to make sure her fish would be well cared for. It took me a while (about a month and a half) to get everything set up, tweaked, and changed to my liking. But the more I research on what my next steps should be for upgrading (down the road, not soon), the more confused I get.

The 60 gallon is 48x12x24. I bought a new stand that can handle a 90 gallon, so there's some empty space up front that my cats like to perch on and watch "tv." It's stocked with 3 angels (1 male, 2 female), a male polypterus senegalus, and a julii cory cat. The angels are all about 3" or so, the bichir is about 4" and the cory is around 2". I'm running a canister filter and a sponge filter, with an extra air stone since the bichir loves surfing the bubbles. They've all been together since my friend originally got them as little guys from the lfs, so they get along surprisingly well. I'm constantly eyeballing the bichir to make sure he's not bothering the cory, but beyond swimming across the cory during feeding time they leave each other alone. The angels do their own thing toward the front of the tank. The bichir swims around all over the whole tank, surfing the bubbles, swirling around, planking, taunting the angels and generally seeming to enjoy himself. The cory nibbles around the whole tank all day.

My question really comes down to two parts. One, since the bichir will most likely need a larger/wider tank for when he gets bigger, would a 90 gallon be sufficient? Or should I plan for a minimum of 125, as some parts of the internet suggest? I know that footprint matters as much as gallons do for longer fish, so what opinion do ya'll have on that?

Second, stocking. Will the angels continue to be ok with the bichir? Should I add more cories since they are communal? (Obviously, there will come a time when they have to be removed before someone tries to eat them and chokes.) Should I add more senegalus while mine is still small enough so that he has company as well?

My main goal is for them to be healthy, happy, and live a long life. I want to give them a habitat they can thrive in. I also want them to be able to behave as naturally as possible, which is why I'm trying to figure out if the bichir and the cory need more of their own kind. Most posts and write ups about polys seem to involve multiple types (species? sorry, not sure what the appropriate terminology is) within the upper jaw/lower jaw, not having multiples of the same fish.

Hope this wasn't too long for a first post! I appreciate any input ya'll can offer.
 
Hello, welcome to mfk. I wouldn't add more cories, since like you said, the choking hazard. Especially with a bichir, which is very likely to try and eat it. The angles should be fine with your bichir, they will probably mostly ignore each other. A 90 gallon would be fine for those fish, you could add some more small-mid size fish as well, I just wouldn't do anything too large or aggressive.
 
Thank you!

Their personalities seem pretty well balanced, so even after the eventual upgrade I don't know if I'll add anything else. I really like rainbows, but I think they'd be too active for the angels to be happy. Do you think my bichir will be alright on his own, then?
 
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Yes the bichir will be fine on his own, I actually kept a senegal with only cichlids in a 90 gallon years back. You could probably do 1 or two more senegals or other smaller upper jaw species, just make sure to put enough hiding spots for them.
 
Welcome aboard :)

I agree with Gourami Swami Gourami Swami but if you decide to purchase another aquarium and seperate the Cory buy more they do better in groups of 3 or more.
 
Yes the bichir will be fine on his own, I actually kept a senegal with only cichlids in a 90 gallon years back. You could probably do 1 or two more senegals or other smaller upper jaw species, just make sure to put enough hiding spots for them.

Awesome, thank you for enabling... erm, justifying... reinforcing my desire for more bichirs. lol. I have fallen in love with them and think they're awesome! There are plenty of hiding spaces of various sizes. I'll post a pic as soon as I'm allowed. What cichlids did you keep in that tank?

twentyleagues, Thank you!

skjl47, Thank you, as well! I find it's easier to get the information I need if I give people the information they need as clearly as possible. I do tend to run on, though, so glad to hear I didn't overdo it!
 
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tlindsey, Thanks! I could put the cory in my 29 planted tank, but don't want to risk my fledgling shrimp colony in there. It's pretty heavily planted, but still. I want the cory to have company, but also don't want to risk any new ones upsetting the balance and getting eaten. I suppose it'll have to deal with being on its own until I upgrade/get a third tank.
 
My main goal is for them to be healthy, happy, and live a long life. I want to give them a habitat they can thrive in. I also want them to be able to behave as naturally as possible, which is why I'm trying to figure out if the bichir and the cory need more of their own kind. Most posts and write ups about polys seem to involve multiple types (species? sorry, not sure what the appropriate terminology is) within the upper jaw/lower jaw, not having multiples of the same fish.

1st welcome. Now onto why multiple species with only one of each. The main reason is the fish keepers desire to own the different types. Bichirs tend to do well with any bichir they can't eat
 
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