Unusually quick cycle?

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LOL. while trying to get the water out of the Tupperware, it busted, dumping all the water in it, and the rotted fish into the tank, they immediately sank.

If that don't raise the ammonia, i don't know what will!:hitting:
 
that should do it!
You really need a BIG ammonia spike to get a BIG TRITE spike to get the best amount of beneficial bacteria.
Small spikes are o.k. till you start adding bio load in your display tank then every time you add to much you'll get a mini cycle......
 
Tested it last night after the spill and it was .25, i was sure it was going to spike overnight.

Checked it just now it's back to a bight acidy yellow.

once again zero across the board.

I'm just gonna let it be, if nothing happens this week I'm going to go ahead and finish off the cycle.

This tank had enough bioload to start, about 5 BAGS of live sand, those should have been chuck full of ammonia, and 81 pounds of live rock.
 
Maybe if i put my clowns and bicolor blenny in there for a bit they can poop around and dirty it. because as of now, this tank is actually cleaner than my nano, despite my best efforts to dirty it.
A last resort though...
 
What i think is happening is, whatever bioload gets added spikes it just slightly, ammonia turns into trites, but before i can get any reading with the test kit they are taken away from algae. Right now i'm noticing a considerable growth of diatoms, probably due to the minor spike had from the dead fish. they probably won't make it over night.

No pure ammonia, no chemicals (i will probably go to the store soon) i have fish, but i don't want to use them unless its a last resort, even know this tank is currently better off than my nano.

How much of a cycle does it take to establish a bio filter?
 
Major diatom bloom, somethings happening in there but i just cant get a reading.

This bloom was bigger than the last, most likely having something to do with the dead fish.
 
the precured rock is whats effecting your readings. when cycleing with live rock its best to get never cured rock, add shrimp or whatever and then let the ammonia spike. At this stage all your doing is feeding the bacteria the Live Rock already has. Im usually very weary on this but id take the dead fish out. Do a big tank cleaning, let it sit a day or two to clear up, and add your blenny and clowns. Test dailey to ensure my correct assumption and go from there. after you add ur current stock, wait for around 3 weeks before adding anything else, stay up on your water changes etc.

from the sounds of your statements thats what sounds like it makes sense.
 
I took the dead fish out right after they fell in, i didn't want them to scum up my rocks, most of it was already juices and small intrals that sank out of reach. But yea, i assumed it was the precured.

Right now its just going through a diatom bloom, i'll let that starve out then probably do a 50% water change then put the clowns/blenny in and test daily.

I should probably turn my skimmer back on, i don't think it would hurt. the thing is probably already established.

I guess what i learned is that this system is a pretty good one, first time i could never dirty a tank to the best of my ability.
 
Speed the process by adding your own pure ammonia. It HAS to be pure. A good way to think about it is for the first month of a new tank, you are raising bacteria, not fish. The bacteria must be fed, just as any other living organism. You can get a nice ammonia spike, then once all the ammonia is consumed it goes to zero, nitrites go up, then down to zero, all seems well. Not always the case. You have to continually introduce the ammonia to continue to feed and grow the colony that you have established. If the colony that you established cannot handle the bio load after your "cycle", then you start all over. Youll add fish and get a mini cycle and come home to dead fish. When the ammonia goes to zero, dose it again with pure ammonia up to about 3-5ppm. Let it go again. When you see that your tank can consume 3-5ppm of pure ammonia in about 12 hours, and your nitrites are zero, then you can do that big water change and add all the fish your tank can handle. Youre better off getting a massive overkill of bacteria to insure that your bio load will not exceed the bacteria colony you have established.
 
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