UV...who needs it?
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malawi haps;1297759; said:The last male I had (lived 10 years) when I was still a novice keeping them in a 75 gallon . Used to go out in the summer to a open air enclosure and when I brought him back in he always seemed to glow with entensity and have a little more spunk than when he was just inside .That is what sparked me to do my experiments with the uvb lighting .I think sun light is the best but in a pinch for those guys uvb is better than not.I just wish I could find another male .Since him I have raised 7 females and no males .That's why I'm thinking of going with a blue tree for my terrarium . I have no luck getting males from juvi's...He he I'm a basilisks chick magnet !!
Really? I find more males for sale of the plumed variety. But when I see striped basilisks in pet stores, they're usually females. I believe they are wild caught ones from Florida.
Okay then, lets get back on track...you, as well as Varanios, have stated that No herp requires UVB. I don't agree with that 100%. Varanios gave his evidence, so to speak, at least in regards to Cyclura and bearded dragons. Fine, whatever....I don't know enough or have experience with either of those herps to say anymore about it. I still disagree with it enough that I'm gonna still tell my customers to give their BDs UVB.
I'm talking about green iguanas now. They're obviously herps, so to paraphrase your statement to suit my argument, you could say: No herps, including green iguanas, require UVB.
So far, I haven't seen any evidence that supports this claim enough for me to believe it 100%. I've already mentioned my experience with green iguanas with and without UVB. And we've established that keeping them outdoors with success can't definitively be attributed to natural sunlight. It could be fresh air, stimulation, whatever....I agree thats another topic within itself.
Soooo...until someone comes on here and says they've been breeding green iguanas for years in their basement with no UVB whatsoever, the validity of the statement, "No herps require UVB" is still up in the air, and remains just an opinion of some.
I'm talking about green iguanas now. They're obviously herps, so to paraphrase your statement to suit my argument, you could say: No herps, including green iguanas, require UVB.
So far, I haven't seen any evidence that supports this claim enough for me to believe it 100%. I've already mentioned my experience with green iguanas with and without UVB. And we've established that keeping them outdoors with success can't definitively be attributed to natural sunlight. It could be fresh air, stimulation, whatever....I agree thats another topic within itself.
Soooo...until someone comes on here and says they've been breeding green iguanas for years in their basement with no UVB whatsoever, the validity of the statement, "No herps require UVB" is still up in the air, and remains just an opinion of some.
my point too,
If some one has experienced sucess with two species that apparantly needed UV without it, then cool, but thats all it is, success with THOSE two species.
Every other animal isn't in the debate until they#ve bred them exstensively without it, and kept them thriving.
If some one has experienced sucess with two species that apparantly needed UV without it, then cool, but thats all it is, success with THOSE two species.
Every other animal isn't in the debate until they#ve bred them exstensively without it, and kept them thriving.
Jessica Dring;1298005; said:
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha youre kidding right? So youre gonna sit there and discredit someone that has bred more than two species, just because the number has equated to only 2, 3, 4 maybe even five species. Wow! this is beyond me...please enlighten us as to how long you have kept reptiles and have really been elbow deep into trying to understand reptiles, their behaviors, and what works for them in CAPTIVITY. The floor is yours!
Ophiuchus;1297979; said:
Im amazed at the fact that someone who is suppose to be a savy "researcher" could be such a poor reader. Ophi please keep on the selective reading behaviors you keep showing us here.
I swear ,and the reason I know they are female is EGGS everywhere !!Now if only I could get a male then I could help populate the world with themVicious_Fish;1297978; said:
.plumed are hard to come by in my area for some reason so when ever I get a chance to find one I scoop it up then it is female (lays eggs)and I sell it back to the pet store and look 4 another.As soon as the tank is fin I will again look 4 a male juvi and if I cannot find one I know where 6 blue tree monitors are I can have my pick of.malawi haps;1298572; said:I swear ,and the reason I know they are female is EGGS everywhere !!Now if only I could get a male then I could help populate the world with them
At least with the blue tree monitors you dont need the UV light ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ! Good luck with the plummies, I hope you can find a male, and help populate, what youve done with the enclosure and what not shows youre willing to go the extra mile to make your animals comfortable.
Thanks I appreciate the kind words well off to the shop 4 some more work stay tuned pics and updates to arrive shortly.varanio;1298582; said:
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